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11-04-2013, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Keller, TX
Age: 53
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I'm not the tuning expert, I gave Justin @ VMP all the data he needs, I figure he knows what he's doing. IMO the car runs great and I'm happy. It's my daily driver on a stock internals etc. So it has more than enough power for me right now and I have 0 issues in being the slowest FI 5.0 on here 
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2013 SG 400A GT Premium w/Brembos, VMP TVS 2.3 stage 2, Fore return style fuel system, ID1000's, 20" Shelby CS70's, Eibach Pro System Suspension Kit, BMR K member, UCA, LCA, adj. Pan hard Bar, Shaftmaster Aluminum Driveshaft, McLeod RXT twin disc clutch, McLeod lightened steel flywheel, MBRP race exhaust with Lethal O/R H, JLT oil separator
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11-04-2013, 06:37 PM
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Location: Valley Ranch
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I'm sure he does too. I wasn't knocking it at all. I was saying you're in really good shape unless he really messes up the A/F. This is the 93 tune right?
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11-04-2013, 06:49 PM
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Oh I know lol I was j/k. Yea I told him I was using shell 93 premium.
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2013 SG 400A GT Premium w/Brembos, VMP TVS 2.3 stage 2, Fore return style fuel system, ID1000's, 20" Shelby CS70's, Eibach Pro System Suspension Kit, BMR K member, UCA, LCA, adj. Pan hard Bar, Shaftmaster Aluminum Driveshaft, McLeod RXT twin disc clutch, McLeod lightened steel flywheel, MBRP race exhaust with Lethal O/R H, JLT oil separator
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11-04-2013, 07:09 PM
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Location: Valley Ranch
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Dear lord. lol Stay away from Shell gas.
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11-04-2013, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by JDBishopArts
Dear lord. lol Stay away from Shell gas.
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You need to make a gas analysis thread
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11-04-2013, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Valley Ranch
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All the info I've got is mainly from tuners. I don't really have factual info about why some gas is better than others. All I know is that Shell gas overall seems to cause knock retard on tuned/performance vehicles. Had it happen to me once personally. Never got it since.
Everyone seems to think Exxon/QT/BP is the gas to use on a tuned car.
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11-04-2013, 09:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Keller, TX
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LOL I initially had a tank of Exxon 93 on the first tune revision and he told me he thought I had bad gas because of the Knock sensor readings. Asked me to fill up with a different "name brand" gas, so I filled up with Shell 93 and he said that it was better. Go figure...
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2013 SG 400A GT Premium w/Brembos, VMP TVS 2.3 stage 2, Fore return style fuel system, ID1000's, 20" Shelby CS70's, Eibach Pro System Suspension Kit, BMR K member, UCA, LCA, adj. Pan hard Bar, Shaftmaster Aluminum Driveshaft, McLeod RXT twin disc clutch, McLeod lightened steel flywheel, MBRP race exhaust with Lethal O/R H, JLT oil separator
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11-04-2013, 10:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: DFW
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Ha ha damn gas lol!
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2012 F150 FX2 Screw 3.5L Ecoboost
AFE Stage 2 CAI, AFE Atlas 4" catback, SSI93T4 Tune
mods to be put on:
MAK 3" Offroad downpipe, FR Intercooler, Meth kit, SSI T5 Tune
Totaled:
2013 GT/CS A6
Steeda CAI/ VMP Tune/GT500 AB/JEGS CAT DELETES/
STEEDA UCA/LCA'S/ EIBACH PRO KIT STRUTS/ FRPP K SPRINGS/ BMR PANHARD BAR / Shelby Razors 20's
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11-04-2013, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I used Qt gas on my first data log I sent to Justin. It had some knock. When I switched to Chevron it was way better. I've also had good luck with shell too. All were 93 octane. I think I'm at 15 degrees of timing with no problems.
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11-14-2013, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Age: 40
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Glad you liked everything.
After having dynoed, datalogged, and open tracked a bunch of 5.0s I'm not crazy about high timing on these engines on pump gas. I generally give the KS about +/- 3* leway, on most cars it will start out with 12-14 and add some timing, but on some it runs in the middle.
You can often get away with an extra couple degrees on the dyno and show 20-30rwhp more.
The good thing is once you get into that timing range they can take a ton of abuse, I've opened tracked my TVS Boss on 91 oct with 230F coolant temps and 150F intake temps and it's been happy with 13-14* with an 82mm pulley/10psi. I've found the same with Jeff Lacina's VMP TVSed GT that he open tracks, and he driver harder than me.
I find a little torco goes a long way and lets us get into the 18-20* range very safely.
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11-14-2013, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Do you have a release date on your 8 rib set up?
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11-14-2013, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Age: 42
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I use QT, sounds to me like I should have Brent or Kevin do some data logging and tell me how my tune looks haha.
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2013 GT: Track Pack, Recaro Seats, Whiteside Customs 2012 SEMA Car "Copper Pony"; Dynocom Industries booth# 20123
Dynocom SEMA Video w/ Car
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11-14-2013, 05:13 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Roanoke, Texas
Age: 39
Posts: 818
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Bad ass! Someday...
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Airaid CAI | Borla S-Type Catback | Amsoil 10w30 and MTG Trans. Fluid
382hp 387ft/lb | 1/4: 12.9 @ 112mph
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11-15-2013, 01:21 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: DFW
Posts: 434
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Originally Posted by A302
Do you have a release date on your 8 rib set up?
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I believe its already available cause Eric Wood was looking at it 2 weeks ago when we were having belt problems on his car
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Current:
2012 F150 FX2 Screw 3.5L Ecoboost
AFE Stage 2 CAI, AFE Atlas 4" catback, SSI93T4 Tune
mods to be put on:
MAK 3" Offroad downpipe, FR Intercooler, Meth kit, SSI T5 Tune
Totaled:
2013 GT/CS A6
Steeda CAI/ VMP Tune/GT500 AB/JEGS CAT DELETES/
STEEDA UCA/LCA'S/ EIBACH PRO KIT STRUTS/ FRPP K SPRINGS/ BMR PANHARD BAR / Shelby Razors 20's
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11-17-2013, 11:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 31
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Originally Posted by PLASMAN
I believe its already available cause Eric Wood was looking at it 2 weeks ago when we were having belt problems on his car
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I'll give VMP a call.
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