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Old 03-26-2014, 09:38 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP View Post
Pobst got it around Barber Motorsport's track in 1:36, the record 2012 GTR (not fully stock) did it in 1:42. I'm sure the GTR wasn't professionally driven, but I'm sure it wasn't piloted by a scrub like me either.

http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Barber_Motorsports_Park

By these numbers, it's not a challenger, the Z/28 is a destroyer to the GTR. Also, Nissan has updated that thing like almost every year since its release. I don't think anyone in the automotive world considers the current car 6 years old. I am sure someone will do a comparo against these two in the future though. Edge still goes to the Z/28's Super Trofeo tires though.
That GT-R was the Track Edition and not a 2015 model nor a Nismo. MotorTrend has confirmed that they will have a Nismo and GT3 later at Laguna Seca. I just read the article last night on my ipad LMAO. It has info that's intentionally missing from the internet article. So yeah it will have the same driver (Randy), same environment etc....I think it's the annual best driver's car competition.

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:49 AM   #2
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Wtf is wrong with you? And you were a bowler to. Smh

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Old 03-26-2014, 08:24 AM   #3
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If GM was confident about it they would have gone to willow, or laguna, but they didn't, it's great to build track cars, but here is the thing GM shouldn't forget, 98% of a cars reputation here is based from light to light and Saturday at the strip followed by tight autocross tracks, do you think this tank will win on a tight autocross track against a spec miata?? And on the way home when a light bolt on mustang beats it from light to light. Ford knew that, the boss not only does well on the track it kills straight lines. This will suffer the same fate at the zl1, over inflated hype and bruised egos of owners
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:51 AM   #4
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Based in ring times the z28 beat an 09 gtr. Lolol the gtr is due for a all new chassis soon. The chassis is 6years old and even though they have upgraded it...tere is only so much you can do. Yea 75k and 505hp is heads up with 33k 420. Lol the new mustang is gna be a beast.

Porsche wins because the car is in tune with the driver. I drive my dads 944 every now and then and jeez I love that car.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:34 PM   #5
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Gm has enough shit to wry about while trying to be fastest. These niche cars don't make money and their new trucks sales have been dismal.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:11 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 View Post
Gm has enough shit to wry about while trying to be fastest. These niche cars don't make money and their new trucks sales have been dismal.
GM's are slow! Wanna race?
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:55 PM   #7
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Watch "2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs. 2014 Nissan GT-R T…" on YouTube
2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs. 2014 Nissan GT-R T…: http://youtu.be/PqkyWhVBSKU


Pobst just drove both on the same track same day. Almost even, but the Z/28 was a couple tenths faster. Considering that those brakes are a $20K option on Porsche's, I still say this is a bargain for what it can do.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:41 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP View Post
Watch "2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs. 2014 Nissan GT-R T…" on YouTube
2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 vs. 2014 Nissan GT-R T…: http://youtu.be/PqkyWhVBSKU


Pobst just drove both on the same track same day. Almost even, but the Z/28 was a couple tenths faster. Considering that those brakes are a $20K option on Porsche's, I still say this is a bargain for what it can do.
The gtr platform came out in 08. 6 years is an eternity in the car world. The new one will be out soon and I can see it dipping into the 10's like the 911.
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The gtr platform came out in 08. 6 years is an eternity in the car world. The new one will be out soon and I can see it dipping into the 10's like the 911.
I have no doubt in the GTR's ability to put power to the ground better than anything out there. GTR's will always beat RWD cars at the drag strip and I know that. It will be insteresting to see what or if Nissan comes out with something new on the GTR though.

My thing is power is easy and cheap to make on cars. For being on a track though, stopping and turning are king. Brakes, aero, tires, and suspension, along with the tuning of said suspension, are the real expensive things to develop. IMO, the Z/28 is better set-up for the track right now as power can easily be had (on the cheap) with cams, exhaust, and a CAI to open that LS7 up. For the GTR to catch up on brakes alone is going to run $20-30K.

My argument is the Z/28 is actually a bargain for what it will beat. It's not meant to be a daily driver, more like the Lotus vehicles of late.
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I told you I'm Down whenever. If I win does that make my car a better value since its cheaper?

Edit: gm aren't all slow, just built like shit.
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 View Post
I told you I'm Down whenever. If I win does that make my car a better value since its cheaper?

Edit: gm aren't all slow, just built like shit.
I suppose that depends on the individual on what is important to him and how the car is being used. If you feel your car is a good value for you and how you use it, then it is!

Personally, the 5.0 doesn't work for me. I like my 5.0, it's a very nice cruiser. But it's not very practical for me to use it often enough due to the lack of space in the backseat for little ones. In order for me to be able to put a rear facing car seat in there the front seat had to go way up to where my wife wasn't comfortable anymore. I ended up cruising it around by myself most of the time the rare times I'm actually alone which is usually only on Friday nights or running some quick errands. So we ended up having not one, but TWO Mustangs that just sit in the garage 90% of the time and that is a waste.
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I think the most impressive aspect of this car is that a Camaro is legitimately competing with the likes of 911 Turbos and GTR. That's incredible all within itself. No matter how people want to downplay the super impressive C7Z brakes, the great suspension tuning, the fully built LS7 with Mahle pistons, dry sump, Recaros, weight reduction, Tremec TR6060, aero etc etc, this is a fucking Camaro beating a GTR.... A Camaro... a bone stock Camaro. A say plus 1 to GM.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto View Post
I think the most impressive aspect of this car is that a Camaro is legitimately competing with the likes of 911 Turbos and GTR. That's incredible all within itself. No matter how people want to downplay the super impressive C7Z brakes, the great suspension tuning, the fully built LS7 with Mahle pistons, dry sump, Recaros, weight reduction, Tremec TR6060, aero etc etc, this is a fucking Camaro beating a GTR.... A Camaro... a bone stock Camaro. A say plus 1 to GM.

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I agree.

I'm hoping this Z/28 being so good will make Ford really step up their game too. They aren't telling us much about the upcoming models and SVT stuff yet. Should be interesting to see what happens.
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On a side note of the GTR -

I don't know how many of you have driven one, but I have. It's an AMAZING machine in every facet of what it does. It's fast, solid, very sure footed all the things you heard the magazines rave about, it meets all the hype. But one thing the magazines do not tell you is how fucking boring a GTR is to drive after awhile.

The car is a technical marvel for sure, but in doing so with all of its electronic driver babysitter nannies on it, it really does everything for you. Your Grandma could literally drive a GTR fast because it's so stable.

If you like that type of car, that's fine. But if you like a drivers car then a GTR isn't for you.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT View Post
The car is a technical marvel for sure, but in doing so with all of its electronic driver babysitter nannies on it, it really does everything for you. Your Grandma could literally drive a GTR fast because it's so stable.
Exactly. I never understood what the point of people bringing up the driver of a GTR. Like it matters. The car is as fast with a fetus in the driving seat as it is with the Stig.

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