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re-rx7 · 01-24-2014, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

especially since they are already in so much financial trouble to start with.

Bingo and its gonna get worse when the new f150 Debuts. Also Porsche IMO buikds the best cars in the world. Period.

**Grandpa** · 01-24-2014, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Financially it makes sense though, as people have been wanting one. This new ZO6 should sell greatly. The performance, looks are as to be expected and nothing short of phenomenal. But the fact that you can get one with a targa and auto is going to seal the deal for increased sales.

-Alex

I agree. With all of the retiring baby boomers with expendable income, it's a good time for the Z06 to go partially topless with a well performing auto. GM is well aware their main demographic for NEW Z06 purchases are males over 50 years of age. Most of them are the show and shine types. It's when the cars are a year or two old the younger performance crowd gets a hold of them.

**Grandpa** · 01-24-2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Bingo and its gonna get worse when the new f150 Debuts. Also Porsche IMO buikds the best cars in the world. Period.

The F150 has nothing to do with the Z06. Two different markets entirely.

re-rx7 · 01-24-2014, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

The F150 has nothing to do with the Z06. Two different markets entirely.

But it does. Detroit Automakers depend on trucks for the profit the companies make. W/o profit there can no development. What little profit Gm is making is not going toward a niche market. I wouldnt be surprised to see Gm in the shitter in under a decade.

**STROKD** · 01-24-2014, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

I agree. With all of the retiring baby boomers with expendable income, it's a good time for the Z06 to go partially topless with a well performing auto. GM is well aware their main demographic for NEW Z06 purchases are males over 50 years of age. Most of them are the show and shine types. It's when the cars are a year or two old the younger performance crowd gets a hold of them.

Thats my pop's... minus the show and shine types. I had his 05 down the track at 501 miles and on the dyno the next week. lol both his idea.

**Grandpa** · 01-24-2014, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

But it does. Detroit Automakers depend on trucks for the profit the companies make. W/o profit there can no development. What little profit Gm is making is not going toward a niche market. I wouldnt be surprised to see Gm in the shitter in under a decade.

One has nothing to do with the other. Someone shopping for a sports car isn't going to consider a F150 and vice versa. The government will not let GM fail no matter how much they threaten to let it do so.

**03MachMe** · 01-24-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

One has nothing to do with the other. Someone shopping for a sports car isn't going to consider a F150 and vice versa. The government will not let GM fail no matter how much they threaten to let it do so.

He is not saying they are the same market. He is saying the new f150 will affect the overall profits of gm. Thus affecting the future of cars such as the z

re-rx7 · 01-24-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

One has nothing to do with the other. Someone shopping for a sports car isn't going to consider a F150 and vice versa. The government will not let GM fail no matter how much they threaten to let it do so.

The profit from those trucks selling allows GM to invest money in the development of the Vette. Im not saying anything about one shopping for the other. When Gm starts selling less trucks, then less will be invested on lower selling vehicles and more on high volume. Apparently the new Shelby will be close to 700hp as well from what Ive been reading with a couple of Turbines.

**Grandpa** · 01-24-2014, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Apparently the new Shelby will be close to 700hp as well from what Ive been reading with a couple of Turbines.

From what I have read, there will not be another Shelby GT500. There will be one last Shelby GT model and then Ford is done with the Shelby name. What I'm gathering is that SVT will be putting something out directly, perhaps the "King Cobra" or something to that affect. As for a TT car, that rumor started with the Cobra Jet being a TT car but from talking to the engineers from Ford at SEMA, they had no plans of putting a TT kit in any V8 Mustang for mass production.

**DirtyD** · 01-24-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by 03MachMe

He is not saying they are the same market. He is saying the new f150 will affect the overall profits of gm. Thus affecting the future of cars such as the z

Originally Posted by re-rx7

The profit from those trucks selling allows GM to invest money in the development of the Vette. Im not saying anything about one shopping for the other. When Gm starts selling less trucks, then less will be invested on lower selling vehicles and more on high volume. Apparently the new Shelby will be close to 700hp as well from what Ive been reading with a couple of Turbines.

Bingo.

Plus the new F150 is going to be a big deal to see how an aluminum bodied truck will do in the real market, and could really put a hurting on GM trucks.

**DirtyD** · 01-24-2014, 12:18 PM

Shelby will continue to make cars. But it won't be in direct collaboration with Ford. It would be like the old days. You buy a Mustang, and then take it to Shelby to have it worked over.

The GT350 will be a beast if Shelby does it right.

**Grandpa** · 01-24-2014, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Bingo.

Plus the new F150 is going to be a big deal to see how an aluminum bodied truck will do in the real market, and could really put a hurting on GM trucks.

That is a good point. The CEO of Ford mentioned eventually their whole line of cars will eventually be aluminum bodied including the Mustang!

re-rx7 · 01-24-2014, 12:29 PM

The new F150 will be a great truck. There really isnt a choice do to the upcoming fuel compliance. Its the only way you can meet the MPG and keep the towing. Thats why GM screwed the pooch. They lost maybe 100lbs on the new truck. The company avg has to be 30 mpg. Thats why they are coming back out with the COlorado and other BS to try and compensate.