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Dominic Toretto 08-30-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 47695)
If it didn't yield better power how could it be breathing any better?

Simply increasing the amount of air the engine is taking in won't increase the power. To increase power you have to maximize the efficiency of the air AND the fuel. You do that by tuning. Also you can have a car that makes a ton of power and it be with a crappy tune. Reference downtime!s recent thread.

-Alex

JDMLOL 08-30-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 47699)
Simply increasing the amount of air the engine is taking in won't increase the power. To increase power you have to maximize the efficiency of the air AND the fuel. You do that by tuning. Also you can have a car that makes a ton of power and it be with a crappy tune. Reference downtime!s recent thread.

-Alex

I thought more air being moved meant better power?

Dominic Toretto 08-30-2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 47700)
I thought more air being moved meant better power?

If you're compensating with the proportionate amount of fuel and spark to combust it all efficiently then yes. Otherwise running too much air(lean) or fuel(rich) can be detrimental.

-Alex

Pepperinyoureye 09-01-2013 08:56 AM

Not to mention the factory intake with a K&N filter is going to do about the same as an aftermarket intake... It's a pretty damn good air box for being OEM.

GunsUp 09-01-2013 01:00 PM

Keep the stock box

re-rx7 09-01-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperinyoureye (Post 47852)
Not to mention the factory intake with a K&N filter is going to do about the same as an aftermarket intake... It's a pretty damn good air box for being OEM.

The only problem on the factory intake is not the box. Its the silence box and the diameter in the tube.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunsUp (Post 47885)
Keep the stock box

Depends.

JDBishopArts 09-01-2013 02:27 PM

Keep stock box till you want to go with a tune. Just do it.

wbt 09-01-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 47890)
The only problem on the factory intake is not the box. Its the silence box and the diameter in the tube.



Depends.

We did back-to-back testing at the track between the JLT and stock airbox using the same tune sans the MAF transfer function. The difference in times:

.06

That falls within the margin of error. There are no real performance gains to be had running an aftermarket CAI. Run one for looks/sound only.

Dominic Toretto 09-01-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47949)
We did back-to-back testing at the track between the JLT and stock airbox using the same tune sans the MAF transfer function. The difference in times:

.06

That falls within the margin of error. There are no real performance gains to be had running an aftermarket CAI. Run one for looks/sound only.

So then an aftermarket CAI has no better effect on the engine's potential cfm as the stock intake?

-Alex

wbt 09-01-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 47969)
So then an aftermarket CAI has no better effect on the engine's potential cfm as the stock intake?

-Alex

The stock CAI flows enough air that it isn't a restriction. Ford did their homework.

Dominic Toretto 09-01-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47973)
The stock CAI flows enough air that it isn't a restriction. Ford did their homework.

Very impressive! Thanks.

-Alex


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