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thelandshark 08-09-2013 02:05 PM

I think ur tune was a Lil weak jay is a good racer don't get me wrong but I don't see that intake killing u that much k&n makes very good parts maybe get a new tune and retry are have jay load his race tune an see what happens

Oxford14Stang 08-09-2013 02:07 PM

Derek, my car is a 14' thank you very much :-) lol. Had to say it. Second.. great runs again. Wasn't much of a differences but after looking at your intake design I personally don't like it. I choose steeda because I called bama and asked them what they made/seen more power out of, steeda or the jlt. They told me their stock 13' dynoed 370hp after steeda and bama tune it dynoed 408hp with jlt and bama tune it dynoed 403 so really no difference. Could of simply been IAT were hotter. So I personally would run either or over the k&n. Also I've never heard of JPC Racing so I can't really say anything about their tunes. Just don't see ppl tunning them. I have been extreamly pleased withy bama tune(performance, only ran race on the track) and would support them in an argument(to a point bahhhaa)

DirtyD 08-09-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thelandshark (Post 43875)
I think ur tune was a Lil weak jay is a good racer don't get me wrong but I don't see that intake killing u that much k&n makes very good parts maybe get a new tune and retry are have jay load his race tune an see what happens

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 43877)
Derek, my car is a 14' thank you very much :-) lol. Had to say it. Second.. great runs again. Wasn't much of a differences but after looking at your intake design I personally don't like it. I choose steeda because I called bama and asked them what they made/seen more power out of, steeda or the jlt. They told me their stock 13' dynoed 370hp after steeda and bama tune it dynoed 408hp with jlt and bama tune it dynoed 403 so really no difference. Could of simply been IAT were hotter. So I personally would run either or over the k&n. Also I've never heard of JPC Racing so I can't really say anything about their tunes. Just don't see ppl tunning them. I have been extreamly pleased withy bama tune(performance, only ran race on the track) and would support them in an argument(to a point bahhhaa)

Haha. I'm stupid. Haha.

Those dynos were in STD I'm sure, so SAE would've shown less of a gain, so it was just a marketing scheme to inflate numbers a little more.

JPC is kind of a East coast equivalent to AED. JPC are well known in the community, and have some of the fastest Coyotes being races at the strip.

As for the K&N design, since I have the same size area around the MAF location, I don't think I'm getting an advantage with more air like you are with the larger tube, which again is back to the "no tune required" ordeal.

I really think had I not missed 5th on the first run, that would've been a damn close one.

Oxford14Stang 08-09-2013 03:13 PM

It was a damn close run. I was asking thelandshark who I work with after he saw the video I was wondering why that first run we were neck and neck and the others I pulled. Didn't make sense. Also towards the end of the video there's a run where you pulled than I pulled it back in. a lot of unanswered questions but thats what we get for racing on the streets with no slips to see what we did.

DirtyD 08-09-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 43899)
It was a damn close run. I was asking thelandshark who I work with after he saw the video I was wondering why that first run we were neck and neck and the others I pulled. Didn't make sense. Also towards the end of the video there's a run where you pulled than I pulled it back in. a lot of unanswered questions but thats what we get for racing on the streets with no slips to see what we did.

Yeah, that's why I'm puzzled. It may have been the temp, it may not have been. Who knows. I think getting another matchup in when it's cooler may tell a little better story.

Oxford14Stang 08-09-2013 04:08 PM

Sounds great

Rebelracer568 08-09-2013 04:31 PM

I watched the videos. I notice in videos your car pulls then like hits wall and jay pulls away. I would look into your tune. I know jpc has some of baddest na coyotes around.

DirtyD 08-09-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 43915)
I watched the videos. I notice in videos your car pulls then like hits wall and jay pulls away. I would look into your tune. I know jpc has some of baddest na coyotes around.

I don't think it's my shifting. I was having clean shifts except for the lockouts in 5th and 3rd.

The issues are definitely occuring in the higher RPM. That is why I think my timing may be the culprit.

Rebelracer568 08-09-2013 04:59 PM

Yea your shifts looked good in the video. I would call jpc and see if they can send you a updated tune. I have some bama tunes I can send you. There for a c&l cai intake if you possibly wanna try it

DirtyD 08-09-2013 05:09 PM

Tune will be too rich since it's for a larger intake, and also won't be for my car since they are computer/ecu matched.

I'm going to get with JPC when they get back in the office next week. I don't have a laptop to log my current tune though, so that doesn't help.

Oxford14Stang 08-09-2013 06:40 PM

Derek, I used fords IDS and while I drove thelandshark monitored and recorded my a/f (my performance tune) at idle was 14.2-14.3 under wide open throttle it was 12.29 so I'm running rich on top end.. better rich than lean I always say :D

DirtyD 08-10-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 43927)
Derek, I used fords IDS and while I drove thelandshark monitored and recorded my a/f (my performance tune) at idle was 14.2-14.3 under wide open throttle it was 12.29 so I'm running rich on top end.. better rich than lean I always say :D

Can you check timing with that as well?

Mrjeremyt 08-10-2013 12:37 AM

I know the IDS can watch timing...

03MachMe 08-10-2013 01:20 AM

I think you are WAY over thinking one race with another car

re-rx7 08-10-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 43927)
at idle was 14.2-14.3 under wide open throttle it was 12.29

but...bu.. its a bama tune.?


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