I did research. But like I said, I let myself put too much stock into getting a closed element CAI over an open element, even though almost all the open element intake were the ones to make the most power. I always bought my CAI before I got a tune, so I wanted run I could run without a tune but (in my mind) would be on par after a tune with others. I know recognize that isn't true.

I've been driving my car just over a year now, bought it last July.

Before that I had an auto F150, but I've known how to drive a stick for many many years.

Thats the difference though, some people on here have drove performance cars for years if not decades. Sounds like you were wanting a intake really bad but did not have the money for both. I went through that but ended up just saving.

Logic and reason are great in a discussion when you have all the facts and expierence otherwise its just conjecture based on ignorance. You need seat time D and first hand expierence with your car. No two cars alike. You can have the same exact mods, tune and same driver making passes and get different results more times than not because they are two different cars regardless if they are the same make/model.

Steves on fire today.

I'm not denying I don't have the years of experience that other hear have. I also understand no two cars are exactly alike, but they also will not very drastically from each other either. You can't deny that point.

I'm not being ignorant either. Just don't get why I can't have an opinion of my own based on the information I have at my disposal, and get slammed for said opinion. It's an opinion. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they will not always be the same as another. Just ignore it and move on. When I finally get enough experience under my belt, I'm sure I will have a change of mind. Until then, this is me.

You have lots to learn.

So you are saying that two cars can be completely and totally different from each other? Eliminating driver error, on two completely stock cars and one would be an absolute turd compared to the other?

Thats exactly what im saying. The fact you have never heard of a "built on monday" or "built on Wednesday" car tells me you need to learn.

I think a lot of it is ur tune and jay has been around street racing since he was a kid his dad use to take him out everytime he went so jay learned a lot from his old man geting locked out of gears and a weak tune was more than likely the problem

Race me and lets test that gear theory.

Derek what rx7 is saying is true. I'm sure you've heard the term "factory freak" meaning even though you have two cars alike doesn't mean they'll perform the same way. One car may dyno 375 HP then other 355 HP. Therefore one being a little faster or putting down very good power. As far as driving goes there was no doubt Derek could drive his car. His shifts were quick and clean. As the first run shows we were neck and neck, other runs as I noticed at the top of each gear I pulled, I hit 5th every run but let off seconds into it. Never ran it out. As far as our two cars they are indeed same mod and same setup.. (not exactly but you know what I mean) so should be within reason of each other. Again your upper rpms were no doubt where your car was falling I'd datalog and go from there. Wouldn't quiet start jumping the gun and pointing fingers. Again, great runs. And we will run them again soon

Bullshit. Bama tunes are crap ask anyone.:killer:

Like I said, datalog your car Derek lol. And rx7 I'll be using bama until I'm fully bolted.

I will as well, till I get the juice on my car.

All of y'all are slow :D