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red_baron06 02-25-2013 01:42 PM

3.31 vs 3.73
 
Have any of you guys arena difference when running the 2 cars against each other? I really haven't been able to find much on this. Will the cars run close or will one walk away?

DirtyD 02-25-2013 01:45 PM

a 3.73 car will reach the power band quicker than a 3.31 car, but if given enough room, the 3.31 car will end up in front because the top speed will be slightly higher from having a taller, longer gear.

also, it depends on if you are trying to go from a dig or a roll. 3.73 might give you traction problems in lower gears with quick acceleration, but would spin the RPMs quicker once traction is had.

03MachMe 02-25-2013 01:46 PM

Depends on if your talking about from a roll or dig. Equal power would be a drivers race imo

DirtyD 02-25-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 20490)
Depends on if your talking about from a roll or dig. Equal power would be a drivers race imo

Too slow. :p

red_baron06 02-25-2013 01:50 PM

33.1 vs 3.73
 
Well yea I know that. The thing I was more gearing to was like in a roll have you guys lined up a 33.1 car and 3.73 car will similar mods?

Midnight11 02-25-2013 01:52 PM

Ill race a 3.31 car

red_baron06 02-25-2013 01:55 PM

33.1 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 20494)
Ill race a 3.31 car

Well find some one lol. I need to see the outcome so I can see if I need to pull the 3.31s out of my car before I start modding more!

Midnight11 02-25-2013 01:57 PM

If u are gonna go boost keep them

red_baron06 02-25-2013 02:00 PM

33.1 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 20496)
If u are gonna go boost keep them

I was think that to. In my supercharge 06 I went from 4.10s back down to 3.55s. I think that gear is probably the best of both worlds for boost and n/a.

DirtyD 02-25-2013 02:00 PM

If you want to do straight line racing, rather highway or track, and don't plan to go boost, get 3.73s. If you plan to go boost, as Nic (midnight) said, stay 3.31s.

03MachMe 02-25-2013 02:28 PM

I have 3.31s and will be keeping them because I plan on going TVS down the road.

BLK2012GT 02-25-2013 02:34 PM

4.10's FTW!!!!! Plus I got some for sale for 100 bucks with less then 300 miles in them.:driver:

Grandpa 02-25-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 20494)
Ill race a 3.31 car

<------3.31's ;)

Grandpa 02-25-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 20502)
4.10's FTW!!!!! Plus I got some for sale for 100 bucks with less then 300 miles in them.:driver:

I suspect you will change those at some point because you will get tired of blowing tire and losing to cars with less power.

red_baron06 02-25-2013 03:54 PM

33.1 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 20509)
<------3.31's ;)

Set it up!! Then post the video. But I'm having a feeling you're boosted or something haha.

STROKD 02-25-2013 03:56 PM

33.1s are pretty f'in steep, it'll prob blow tire in every gear and top out around 50 or so.

red_baron06 02-25-2013 03:58 PM

33.1 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 20517)
33.1s are pretty f'in steep, it'll prob blow tire in every gear and top out around 50 or so.

Hahahaha yea damn iPhone and rushing.

03MachMe 02-25-2013 06:28 PM

Steve is stock but nick has about 40hp so wouldn't be a good comparison of just gears. Josh and I will have to solve this at the track sometime

BLK2012GT 02-25-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 20510)
I suspect you will change those at some point because you will get tired of blowing tire and losing to cars with less power.

They're not in the car hence why they are for sale.:lewx4:

merlinmol 02-25-2013 07:09 PM

My car is boosted and runs the 3.73's. If you are going to street/strip race your car and boost it I recommend keeping the 3.31's. It's hard to find traction or react quick enough to the near instant redline when I don't spin.

JDBishopArts 02-25-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 20556)
Steve is stock but nick has about 40hp so wouldn't be a good comparison of just gears. Josh and I will have to solve this at the track sometime

x2 and a mexico roll. That will be the big tell. I think the 3.73 v 3.31 cars from a roll will be pretty close with the 3.73 getting a hit and keeping the lead. I don't think it'll matter how fast you go I still think the 3.73 car will pull. I got the 3.73's knowing it was going to be a while before I was boosted. And then I'm sure I can find a 3.31 car who'll want to swap if the time comes. Until then I need some new rims and wider meats in the rear

Grandpa 02-25-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by merlinmol (Post 20565)
My car is boosted and runs the 3.73's. If you are going to street/strip race your car and boost it I recommend keeping the 3.31's. It's hard to find traction or react quick enough to the near instant redline when I don't spin.

Have you had your car to the track yet? It seems a lot of people running the 3.73's complain about banging the rev limiter before hitting the traps, defintely more so with the cars making more than stock power.

03MachMe 02-25-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JDBishopArts (Post 20595)
x2 and a mexico roll.

you know that wont happen.......

red_baron06 02-25-2013 10:14 PM

3.31 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JDBishopArts (Post 20595)
x2 and a mexico roll. That will be the big tell. I think the 3.73 v 3.31 cars from a roll will be pretty close with the 3.73 getting a hit and keeping the lead. I don't think it'll matter how fast you go I still think the 3.73 car will pull. I got the 3.73's knowing it was going to be a while before I was boosted. And then I'm sure I can find a 3.31 car who'll want to swap if the time comes. Until then I need some new rims and wider meats in the rear

So you think a 3.73 car will take the cake at the end of the day? Because at this point I think the in the middle gear (3.55s) may be the way to go. I think similar modded cars a 3.73 would have a hard time taking a 3.55 car. But as of now I'm playing the devils advocate lol.

Midnight11 02-25-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_baron06 (Post 20611)
So you think a 3.73 car will take the cake at the end of the day? Because at this point I think the in the middle gear (3.55s) may be the way to go. I think similar modded cars a 3.73 would have a hard time taking a 3.55 car. But as of now I'm playing the devils advocate lol.

ok well in that case. derek hurry up with mods and ill race you lol

ill still say 373s are a prime gear for a bolt on car

merlinmol 02-25-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 20598)
Have you had your car to the track yet? It seems a lot of people running the 3.73's complain about banging the rev limiter before hitting the traps, defintely more so with the cars making more than stock power.

Nope, haven't even really played with launching the car. One of these years Ill take her out and see how she does on a race track.

JDBishopArts 02-26-2013 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_baron06 (Post 20611)
So you think a 3.73 car will take the cake at the end of the day? Because at this point I think the in the middle gear (3.55s) may be the way to go. I think similar modded cars a 3.73 would have a hard time taking a 3.55 car. But as of now I'm playing the devils advocate lol.

With a DOHC car, one that has more HP than torque and makes it's power at 5,500k RPM and up anything that helps bring you into the power band quicker is better.

With pushrod motors you have peak power and a broad torque curve starting as low as 4k RPM so you want to keep that power band longer with a taller gear.

Although this is useless if you have too much power, or not enough power and how you're putting it down.

I think I saw this somewhere but it's something like this for Mustangs:

350HP or less = 4.10's
350-450 = 3.73's
450-550 = 3.55's
550 and up = 3.23 or 3.31 in our case.

Phuck Phace 02-26-2013 02:38 AM

I have 3.31s, let's race.

BLK2012GT 02-26-2013 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace (Post 20667)
I have 3.31s, let's race.

Me too

pohnjarker 02-26-2013 07:05 AM

i have 3.73s but plan on going down to 3.27 since i went boost

red_baron06 02-27-2013 12:03 PM

3.31 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pohnjarker (Post 20682)
i have 3.73s but plan on going down to 3.27 since i went boost

We should just swap rear ends then hahaha.

pohnjarker 03-01-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_baron06 (Post 20864)
We should just swap rear ends then hahaha.

shoot, if i was home, i dont see a problem with that.

i'll be adding in an Eaton Limited Slip Differential as well since they will have the rear end opened for the gears.

Doug1227 03-02-2013 08:47 PM

<--keeping my 3.15's....

Dan12GT 03-03-2013 05:51 PM

This is kind of what I feel I might do next. I rarely have the car at 120+ and I am not going boosted or big power anytime soon, so I wouldn't mind ditching my 3.31s for 3.73s. No Jeff I don't want your 4.10s!

BLK2012GT 03-03-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan12GT (Post 21243)
This is kind of what I feel I might do next. I rarely have the car at 120+ and I am not going boosted or big power anytime soon, so I wouldn't mind ditching my 3.31s for 3.73s. No Jeff I don't want your 4.10s!

Want my 4.10's?

Dan12GT 03-03-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blk2012gt (Post 21245)
want my 4.10's?

nope!

BLK2012GT 03-03-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan12GT (Post 21260)
nope!

Yes foo

MidWest281 03-03-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_baron06 (Post 20488)
Have any of you guys arena difference when running the 2 cars against each other? I really haven't been able to find much on this. Will the cars run close or will one walk away?

there are a lot of different factors that come into play besides just final drive gear ratio.

the difference between the two is probably not that noticeable.

DirtyD 03-03-2013 09:38 PM

3.31 vs 3.73
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MidWest281 (Post 21269)
there are a lot of different factors that come into play besides just final drive gear ratio.

the difference between the two is probably not that noticeable.

Even a couple hundred RPM over 3-4 gears could mean the difference.

Kosovobandit 03-03-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 20598)
Have you had your car to the track yet? It seems a lot of people running the 3.73's complain about banging the rev limiter before hitting the traps, defintely more so with the cars making more than stock power.

I have been to the track with a 3:73 car that is non Brembo and no tune just a cold air/horrible driver. I do not hit the limiter and shift at 6,800-7,000. The non brembo cars with the 245/45 19 is a 27.7 inch tall tire which helps. The brembo guys have a 255/40 19 which is a 27 inch tall tire. That is part of the reason for the rev limiter issue. The 3:73 do get you in the band nicely.


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