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jpgraham65 01-06-2013 03:06 AM

C6 vette vs 5.0
 
Per Steve's "street challenge" thread I've been curious about how a lightly modded 5.0 vs a stock C6 vette race would go down. My brother has a stock z51 package 2005 vette and I'm wondering how my mods would stack up, both on a dragway and race track. As you can see by by my signature I've lightly upgraded both my suspension and engine performance. We haven't yet got to compare so I'm wondering if anyone else has compared something similar in real life yet?

Grandpa 01-06-2013 03:16 AM

An 05 is an LS2 which run "okay", but they aren't near as strong as the 2008+ LS3 cars. My comment was steered more towards a Z06/ZR1. A stock Z06 is a easy mid 11 second car with a mediocre driver. In the hands of a great driver they will run high tens - stock. A Zr1 is just that much more of a monster to deal with.


You should be able to beat your brothers car if his is stock and your slightly modded.

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 03:19 AM

I got ya, I just want to beat my brother's car. I was just wondering what the chances might be.

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 03:21 AM

In particular, I was wondering where my CAI and tune would position me against his car...

Grandpa 01-06-2013 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jpgraham65 (Post 14391)
In particular, I was wondering where my CAI and tune would position me against his car...

What is done to his car? Hardtop? Vert?

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 03:28 AM

All I know is its a hardtop with corsa axle backs. No tune, just the z51 package.

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 03:30 AM

It's a manual too

Grandpa 01-06-2013 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jpgraham65 (Post 14395)
All I know is its a hardtop with corsa axle backs. No tune, just the z51 package.

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Originally Posted by jpgraham65 (Post 14396)
It's a manual too

You should have him covered providing traction is there.

Phuck Phace 01-06-2013 05:11 AM

I ran past a vette earlier. dey slow

Zeek 01-06-2013 06:22 AM

I bet the vette wins. I raced a 99frc vette with my stock 13 gt and i only beat him when he had a passenger. Youtube 13 5.0 vs mexico and im the GB stang. Our cars just weigh too much.

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 12:41 PM

Do you think a CAI and tune would've changed that?

Grandpa 01-06-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 14400)
I bet the vette wins. I raced a 99frc vette with my stock 13 gt and i only beat him when he had a passenger. Youtube 13 5.0 vs mexico and im the GB stang. Our cars just weigh too much.

You raced Matt, correct?

46Tbird 01-06-2013 01:00 PM

Why all the bench racing? Go race your brother, jeeeez...

downtime! 01-06-2013 01:02 PM

If the Vette is mostly stock, just exhaust and no tune, you should easily have him covered. They seem to like roll racing the most, so if you're car is an M6, take it from about 75 and grab 3rd when the horn honks. Most Vettes won't drag race, I"m assuming the IRS is the weak link in the launch.

Grandpa 01-06-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 14417)
If the Vette is mostly stock, just exhaust and no tune, you should easily have him covered. They seem to like roll racing the most, so if you're car is an M6, take it from about 75 and grab 3rd when the horn honks. Most Vettes won't drag race, I"m assuming the IRS is the weak link in the launch.

75 roll for stock cars? They arent supras! Lol.

A 20-25 is more like it.

Zeek 01-06-2013 02:32 PM

I raced Matt. We went from a 35 and 40 roll till 155 shutdown. He beat me and its 14 years older. And makes 315hp mine makes 385. I would have beat him with a cai and tune but its not a 05 vette. Big difference between a 99 and 05.

Zeek 01-06-2013 02:39 PM

The 05 has around 50 more hp than the 99. If he knows how to drive id still bet on the vette. How much hp are you putting down?

Grandpa 01-06-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 14446)
I raced Matt. We went from a 35 and 40 roll till 155 shutdown. He beat me and its 14 years older. And makes 315hp mine makes 385. I would have beat him with a cai and tune but its not a 05 vette. Big difference between a 99 and 05.

Incorrect. While his FRC may not make LS2/3 power, it's much lighter than any other year of C5/6 Vettes. You got hustled by an old school street racer who can drive. lol.

Zeek 01-06-2013 02:50 PM

I didn't get hustled. I bet any other stock 5.0 wouldn't do any better. I know how to drive.

downtime! 01-06-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 14419)
75 roll for stock cars? They arent supras! Lol.

A 20-25 is more like it.

I've never had one want to slow down past 60. Works out pretty good usually, since I shift mine at 7500. 3rd gear is eye opening in that range on mine.

Grandpa 01-06-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 14461)
I didn't get hustled. I bet any other stock 5.0 wouldn't do any better. I know how to drive.

Ohhhh, to be young. :rofl:
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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 14462)
I've never had one want to slow down past 60. Works out pretty good usually, since I shift mine at 7500. 3rd gear is eye opening in that range on mine.

Oh I bet, your car is a beast for sure.

Crash 01-06-2013 03:07 PM

i couldnt tell you exactly what model but it was def a 12 and up vette now on my car atm i have full borla attack headers xpipe with air raid intake 93 bama tune 4.10 gears with just my gt premium brembo upgrade pack so suspension ect is all stock drive train stock and i smoked the vette three times on 121 tollway we even looped around 2x to run again but like i said i dont know shit about corvettes so could have been shit car but it was loud and sounded like it had a pair

Crash 01-06-2013 03:08 PM

ofc come to think of it he could have just been a shitty driver i dunno ive never got to put my car on a dyno yet true street has a mile long wait list and im to impatient to check back or i forget to

jpgraham65 01-06-2013 05:33 PM

I should be putting down 390-400 hp at the rear wheels, still have yet to test it though. Where's a good place to race around here (any good dragways?), I'll have to talk my brother into it.

Zeek 01-06-2013 05:38 PM

George Bush works for me lol

Phuck Phace 01-06-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 14507)
George Bush works for me lol

Yup, GB and the DTW

Crash 01-06-2013 06:35 PM

I dunno gb is cool but my all time road where there is never any cops is i20 out by where I'm from u could open up all the way before eastland county flat surface long and straight I've hit 140 there before I lost my nerve

Crash 01-06-2013 06:36 PM

But since I live in the colony I cruise 121 tollway to go to frisco and Plano so u will find me racing there almost every night

Zeek 01-06-2013 06:55 PM

Im usually up for a race whenever but im still stock :/

Crash 01-06-2013 06:57 PM

nice yeah im down idc about it being legit toe to toe race i just enjoy opening it up and filming it when i can

Crash 01-06-2013 07:00 PM

u can always tell my ride bc i have hid angel eye's with audi led turn signals

GunsUp 01-07-2013 11:34 AM

My roommate has an 01 Z06 making 385 and I have to admit that little rocket ship is quick. Yesterday he took me for a ride and its just a completely different feel that my car. He can drop it into 2nd and punch it wot then brake hard as fuck and turn.

Made me giggle like a school girl

jpgraham65 01-08-2013 10:29 AM

Do you think the 01 ZO1 could beat you in a straight line?

jpgraham65 01-08-2013 10:29 AM

I'd imagine it could being so light in comparison...

GunsUp 01-08-2013 02:20 PM

I think from a 20 roll it would be even til 120-130 then the vette will slowly start to walk. But I usually shut down at those speeds so its a toss up

unreal 01-13-2013 01:24 PM

I have a c6 vette and a 5.0. The vette is much quicker than the 5.0 but the 5.0 is a better daily driver. I would say c5 z06 is slightly quicker than a stock 5.0. Drivers race vs a ls2 vette (unless it is a 2.73 auto, then 5.0 easy win), ls3 will beat out a 5.0, and ls7/ls9 isn't close.

Of course that is what mods are for. Drive and traction also play a huge roll. I've beat tons of "faster" cars in the 5.0 just because it hooks.

BLK2012GT 01-13-2013 01:44 PM

I don't understand why people compare a GT to Chevy so call super car. Should we compare the GT500 vs the vette.

unreal 01-13-2013 01:53 PM

People compare to other cars they see on the road. Yes, stock for stock that is a better match up. At the same time a new 5.0 is going to cost the same as a lightly used vette so it is a decent comparison dollar for dollar.

BLK2012GT 01-13-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by unreal (Post 15618)
People compare to other cars they see on the road. Yes, stock for stock that is a better match up. At the same time a new 5.0 is going to cost the same as a lightly used vette so it is a decent comparison dollar for dollar.

Yeah if you compare it to a fully loaded GT cause I got mine 2012 GT for 28k out the door. I don't think a slightly used C6 will go for that price.

STROKD 01-13-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 14466)
Ohhhh, to be young. :rofl:

Steve... Zeek can drive, he's one of those drive it like it's stolen peeps, the drivetrain has already been replaced. I was surprised in all actuallity, because I figured I'd have him covered... BTW he ran my wifes Y2K FRC. When he ran my 99 he had just gotten the car and I left him like his car was broken... Difference a cam and c5zheads/intake makes.

Also, my dad has an automatic 05 z51 and I have experience racing it as well (I'm buying it in a couple months)... If the one at hand is mostly stock it should make around 355-365rw. That's 40-50 more than I had racing Zeek. My dad's 05 weighs 3420 with a 3/4 tank of gas and me in it. I never weighed my wife's car (one that ran Zeek) but my optionless 99 weighed 3250 with me in it and a 1/4 tank. So there is about 100-130 more lbs in a c6 z51 than a light weight FRC. My wife's has crossdrilled brakes and heavier wheels, as well as power seats hud etc. On a guess I'd expect my race weight racing Zeek to be around 3250-3300. I had NO gas in the car as I usually do on the street.

If the c6 driver can drive, on a qtr mile the race will be decided by reaction time and 60 foor (traction). On the freeway the c6 should win by at least a car at 150ish. On a road race track, you are going to get smoked unless you are the Stig and your bro has special needs.


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