E85 and the new 5.0
 

What all is involved in changing over to E85 on the coyote motors. I know a tune would be required, but what about the fuel lines and injectors etc.?

injectors and tune. ill have it in a couple weeks just got the injectors. i wouldnt do it if its your daily though...
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Burns colder but faster right?

30% more power but burns faster. and yes its colder so you wont denotate. also dont think there are any stations in arlington...

Check Kroger. Almost all Kroger stations carry the corn.

Hardly any of the Arlington ones do. I think Mansfield has one or two

This.

That's strange, if I use my locator app, it only returns Kroger stations. I just assumed they all carried it.

Actually its more like 4-5% more HP and 20-30% more fuel. Also burns slower due to the ethanol. Its around 104-106 octane.

sorry i quoted boosted numbers. but it is more than 4-5%

N/A your only gonna get around 15-30 HP....At your HP and 5% that's 21hp. I bet when you go e85 you won't go over 455hp might get 460

Kroger in Mansfield was the closest location
I could find close to me. So is it ok to run E85 if you're not boosted?

Yes, just decrease in your MPG if that is something you try and keep decent.

Who said I'm just trying to add e85? And cool ill still take 460 just fine

I got 12mpg on E85, but if its bought cheap enough it's actually a wash.

So does anybody know the facts behind this statement in the owner's manual?

Use only UNLEADED fuel or UNLEADED fuel blended with a maximum
of 10% ethanol. Do not use fuel ethanol (E85), diesel, methanol, leaded
fuel or any other fuel. The use of leaded fuel is prohibited by law and
could damage your vehicle.
Your vehicle was not designed to use fuel or fuel additives with metallic
compounds, including manganese-based additives.
Note: Use of any fuel other than those recommended may cause
powertrain damage, a loss of vehicle performance, and repairs may not
be covered under warranty.

thats bc you would be on the stock tune....

What's the average price for a gallon of E85 around here?

Who does a good E85 Tune around here?

E85 usually is about $0.60/gal cheaper, and typically hovers just under $3.00/gal.

Kevin Dunn (04sleeper) does a great job for e85 tunes, and tunes in general.

And stock injectors.

And rubber fuel lines, which Ethanol breaks down over time.

Very true. Its doesnt take long either. Still dont understand why ford didnt make these flex fuel which would have been awesome!

E85 NA isn't worth the time and money. Boosted is a different story.

Im not too sure the HP gains is worth the poor fuel economy . Nick did say not a hood idea for a daily though.

just talked to kevin all our fuel lines are metal except for one little rubber section running to the fuel rails...

The hp gains don't make it worth the fuel economy loss. If its just a weekender car then why not. But not on a daily in my opinion.

I agree wish ford made these cars flex fuel. Would make everything more interesting

I'm sure Ford will do something like that for the 2015 Mustang.

I agree with that BLK2012GT.

I run E85 on my boosted 3v and it's like magic gofast potion but n/a might not be worth it. Biggest problem with E85 is availability. I live near a Kroger that sells it but most Krogers don't sell it.

Some bad information in here. Just figure I would clear a few things up. E85 is perfectly fine with the stock lines. It will not degrade the small amount of rubber at all.

You WILL gain with E85. Even if it is only a few HP, the safety margin alone and not being on the verge of detonation is worth it IMO. It was the first mod I did to my car.

With these newer High Compression motors, high octane and good fuel is essential for longevity! Especially once tuned and pushing more timing than the factory has designed it for. E85 is a safeguard against detonation. No #8 failures here!

What's the cost to convert to e85

$250 for 47# injectors and whatever your tuner charges

That's not bad. Something to think about for future.

Yeah, since it makes it "safer" when I buy a daily, I will highly consider it. I've heard race gas, like 103 is bad for these cars. Didn't seem right, anything on this?

When I pick up a daily, my car will for sure be getting the corn conversion.

Once there are more stations I might think about it and only if I will have the ability to switch back and forth. I don't want to be driving and get stranded because there is no corn close. And prolly only once I have boost

If yor even close to detonation or experiencing it on 93 then you need a new tuner.

With these high compression motors all it takes is a bad tank of gas which is much easier to get in DFW than you think. Kevin has forgotten more about tuning than you know. When he offers input, you should listen.

I haven't yet heard of a single E85 station here in DFW that had anything under E85 that measured under E80. But like Midnight said, most of the station will exceed E85, since there could be some deep shit go down by someone losing their car by a tank of E85 that doesn't pass the standards of minimum 85% volume +/- some percentage.

E85 is liquid gold. I assure you Kevin (04 Sleeper) knows what he's talking about.
My 04 cobra is on corn, and The boss is next.