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grabberblue50 12-04-2012 04:59 PM

Barton shifter
 
Barton Shifter 40% throw reduction was thinking about buying this shifter has anyone tried it yet? they cost alittle more than the steeda and hurst shifters but have more throw reduction hurst shifter has 20% and steeda is 27%.

Midnight11 12-04-2012 05:10 PM

its on sale at am right now too. been deciding between the barton or mgw

BLK2012GT 12-04-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 11191)
its on sale at am right now too. been deciding between the barton or mgw

Ok.......and?

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 05:18 PM

Mgw? And how much is it at american muscle?

DirtyD 12-04-2012 05:19 PM

Mgw. Best design and the adjustable throw is awesome!

BLK2012GT 12-04-2012 05:19 PM

MGW FTW!!!!!!!!!!!:challenge:

Midnight11 12-04-2012 05:20 PM

barton is 285 plus 6% off with the code

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 05:28 PM

Ok so who makes this mgw shifter and where can you buy it?

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 05:29 PM

so midnight was the wreck in your old mustang your fault?

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 05:30 PM

how much those coil overs cost ya?

Midnight11 12-04-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by grabberblue50 (Post 11199)
Ok so who makes this mgw shifter and where can you buy it?

just google mgw or talk to jayman on here
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Originally Posted by grabberblue50 (Post 11200)
so midnight was the wreck in your old mustang your fault?

no.
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Originally Posted by grabberblue50 (Post 11201)
how much those coil overs cost ya?

got a good deal:peace:

Phuck Phace 12-04-2012 05:36 PM

I run the MGW also, very nice piece.

Grandpa 12-04-2012 05:47 PM

I'm most likely going to stay with the stock shifter.

JDBishopArts 12-04-2012 05:48 PM

I had a MGW on my old Cobra and loved it. I'll probably be going with MGW

BLK2012GT 12-04-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 11204)
I'm most likely going to stay with the stock shifter.

shocker:supergay:

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 06:11 PM

got a deal!!! you lucky dog

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 06:15 PM

390.00 OUCH for the mgw looks prety awsome though but only 30% shift reduction. so no one here has tried the bartons shifter.

Grandpa 12-04-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 11207)
shocker:supergay:

I dont see a problem with it. The stock one isnt bad at all. Ive seen lots of comments about aftermarket shifters rattling the interior quite abit in these cars. Rather spend the money elsewhere.

grabberblue50 12-04-2012 06:39 PM

ya i keep missing 2nd maybe i am just a shity driver lol. but the throw just seems to long to me i have always changed shifters in every mustang i have ever owned because of missing 2nd and after shifter replacement 2nd gear was no long a problem. i could just buy some headers instead but what good is power if i cant hit 2nd? lol

Slow6 12-04-2012 06:41 PM

I have the Barton and a buddy has the MGW and driving each car back to back we cant tell a difference in them but either are better than stock. Personally I liked the easy install of the Barton.

DirtyD 12-04-2012 06:43 PM

OP, it may be costly, but MGW designed that shifter from scratch, with in house R&D on a real car. Almost all the other shifters are just reworked and tweaked stock shifter assemblies.

Trust, the throw may be a little less than you want, but the MGW won't disappoint.

Courtesy Flush 12-04-2012 06:55 PM

Not sure on rules in linking other forums, but Sid on SVTP did a damn good write up on detail and effort MGW put into their shifter.

Midnight11 12-04-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush (Post 11220)
Not sure on rules in linking other forums, but Sid on SVTP did a damn good write up on detail and effort MGW put into their shifter.

go ahead

Grandpa 12-04-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by grabberblue50 (Post 11215)
ya i keep missing 2nd maybe i am just a shity driver lol. but the throw just seems to long to me i have always changed shifters in every mustang i have ever owned because of missing 2nd and after shifter replacement 2nd gear was no long a problem. i could just buy some headers instead but what good is power if i cant hit 2nd? lol

Lol. I suspect you need some seat time and practice. Its second..straight down. Lol. Make sure you are sitting in a proper position and using the palm of your hand rather than your fingers. The seat should be close enough that when you straighten your leg its flat on the floor and an upright position.

Midnight11 12-04-2012 07:07 PM

dont listen to steve lol the stock shifter sucks 2nd is a bitch and so is 5th at wot

Grandpa 12-04-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 11224)
dont listen to steve lol the stock shifter sucks 2nd is a bitch and so is 5th at wot

Yeah, don't listen to me, I've only had 14 Mustangs. haha. This post proves how spoiled you are with these cars. Try driving with a stock Fox or SN95 shifter. These Coyote shifters are fine, you just can't drive. lmao!

Midnight11 12-04-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 11226)
Yeah, don't listen to me, I've only had 14 Mustangs. haha. This post proves how spoiled you are with these cars. Try driving with a stock Fox or SN95 shifter. These Coyote shifters are fine, you just can't drive. lmao!

but ive had more new 5.0s than you ;)

Grandpa 12-04-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 11227)
but ive had more new 5.0s than you ;)

Did you really just try to take credit for wrecking a Stang? lol.

DirtyD 12-04-2012 08:08 PM

I will agree with Nic and say that if you are running your car hard, 2nd does get lost in translation sometimes, even when you actually stare at the shifter and try to slam the stick straight down hard enough to shear the shaft...

However, it has pretty much been proven that it can happen from car to car. Many guys on SVTP that say they are still rocking the complete stock shifter with no lockout issues. I've seen 2nd lockout 3 times. First two were within the first 3000 miles, other was because I didn't exactly shift straight down (the shift gates are so damn tiny)

I believe Steve is allow to be heard on this issue though. I want to learn how to drive a column shift. :eek:

Grandpa 12-04-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 11229)
I will agree with Nic and say that if you are running your car hard, 2nd does get lost in translation sometimes, even when you actually stare at the shifter and try to slam the stick straight down hard enough to shear the shaft...

However, it has pretty much been proven that it can happen from car to car. Many guys on SVTP that say they are still rocking the complete stock shifter with no lockout issues. I've seen 2nd lockout 3 times. First two were within the first 3000 miles, other was because I didn't exactly shift straight down (the shift gates are so damn tiny)

I believe Steve is allow to be heard on this issue though. I want to learn how to drive a column shift. :eek:

You sunnuvabeech. I was rowing gears and going fast when you were still trying to figure out how to use the brake handle on your Big Wheel bike. lol.


I haven't had a single problem shifting my car at all. If I did, I would ditch the stock shifter with a quickness. We have a MGW in the Mach and it's a great piece of equiptment. I just don't feel the stock shifter in the Coyote warrants the very HIGH cost of the MGW. And as you said, this could vary from car to car. Thankfully I didn't get one of the junky ones. :D

Now, with some more miles on it, that could change I suppose. But not anytime soon.

Midnight11 12-04-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 11228)
Did you really just try to take credit for wrecking a Stang? lol.

no lol just saying :snoopfacepalm:
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 11230)
You sunnuvabeech. I was rowing gears and going fast when you were still trying to figure out how to use the brake handle on your Big Wheel bike. lol.


I haven't had a single problem shifting my car at all. If I did, I would ditch the stock shifter with a quickness. We have a MGW in the Mach and it's a great piece of equiptment. I just don't feel the stock shifter in the Coyote warrants the very HIGH cost of the MGW. And as you said, this could vary from car to car. Thankfully I didn't get one of the junky ones. :D

Now, with some more miles on it, that could change I suppose. But not anytime soon.

have you seen the stock bushing? maybe its bc you dont drive yours everyday

DirtyD 12-04-2012 08:25 PM

Why am I a sunnavabeech? I didn't call you out for anything.

But for the record, big wheels don't work in the country. Bigfoot power wheels and 230cc ATVs is what I grew up on. :D and my bike. Lol

Just wait until you put that booooooost to use. Then you will think otherwise about upgrading. :p

blownaltered 12-04-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 11223)
Lol. I suspect you need some seat time and practice. Its second..straight down. Lol. Make sure you are sitting in a proper position and using the palm of your hand rather than your fingers. The seat should be close enough that when you straighten your leg its flat on the floor and an upright position.

I'm with you Steve I can see third but second come on :wtf:
I hit 2nd with ease with my 24 year old stock transmission with 200 more horsepower then it's supposed take so I know you guys can do it.

Grandpa 12-04-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 11231)
no lol just saying :snoopfacepalm:


have you seen the stock bushing? maybe its bc you dont drive yours everyday

I drive my car almost everyday except bad weather days.

downtime! 12-04-2012 09:37 PM

11.6x's and still rocking the stock shifter. Just sayin.........

pohnjarker 12-04-2012 10:06 PM

i picked up a Hurst shifter for a great deal, i'll be putting that in within a couple weeks. love the way it looks and from what ive read, it'll perform! i dont think you can go wrong with either the barton or mgw, they are both fine pieces of equipment.

Grandpa 12-04-2012 10:14 PM

By the way, if you have never read Ranger's write on on driving technique on the Corvette forum, I HIGHLY suggest reading it. It will have an immediate effect on your technique and help you drop ET's like crazy.

BLK2012GT 12-04-2012 10:18 PM

Steve next time you are near my car come sit in it and row through the gears and you tell me your stock shifter is better then my MGW shifter.

Grandpa 12-04-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 11246)
Steve next time you are near my car come sit in it and row through the gears and you tell me your stock shifter is better then my MGW shifter.

I didn't say the stock shifter was better. I said that the stock shifter isn't that bad to warrant spending $300+ and having to listen to vibration/rattling noises from being a solid piece. I have an MGW shifter in the Mach, it's a great shifter, no question about it. The stock one in the Mach was garbage and needed to be replaced. I don't feel that way about the one in the 5.0.

downtime! 12-04-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pohnjarker (Post 11243)
i picked up a Hurst shifter for a great deal, i'll be putting that in within a couple weeks. love the way it looks and from what ive read, it'll perform! i dont think you can go wrong with either the barton or mgw, they are both fine pieces of equipment.

No more push down reverse lockout and an LED to let you know you're in reverse? I'll pass. Plus, I've never owned a Hurst that wasn't painfully noisy.


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