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saunupe1911 11-17-2014 10:37 AM

2016 GT350 revealed. And its everything we've wanted!
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Check it out fellas but here's a quick rundown

flat plane V8 that pushing beyond 500 HP. Ford said it's the most powerful NA V8 they have ever produced

fully adjustable Magnetic shocks!!!!!! Nuff said

Bodywork is all about Aero first with lightweight carbon parts

Nice creature comfort features like optional leather and dual climate

Tremec 6 Speed!!!!!

10.5 front wheels and 11 inch back with 15.5 6 piston front and 15 inch 4 piston rear brakes. Yes!!!!

This should be around $50k since they confirmed that they are still creating a GT500.

I know some of yall hate the looks. But give props on these specs. This thing has shit that we have been begging for in a Stang

03MachMe 11-17-2014 12:02 PM

I love it. I am also a fan of the new body so that helps.

stng5pnt8 11-17-2014 12:15 PM

I don't care for the placement & spacing of the stripes for that matter... but I do like the design.

Grandpa 11-17-2014 12:53 PM

I'm on the fence. That is one expensive Mustang. Minimum $50k, plus ADM and interest. Yeesh. $70-80k for a Mustang is hard to swallow, especially when there are so many cars out there that will perform circles around a 500hp Stang. It's understandable if you a bleed Ford blue, diehard Mustang guy, but if you are about getting the most performance for your money regardless of make/model, there are better options out there.

Courtesy Flush 11-17-2014 02:11 PM

looks cool, sounds expensive. In the end, im still driving a mustang.

TEK302 11-17-2014 02:57 PM

If it is 50k, I will trade my boss in or sell it and throw that down as a down payment.

saunupe1911 11-17-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76111)
I'm on the fence. That is one expensive Mustang. Minimum $50k, plus ADM and interest. Yeesh. $70-80k for a Mustang is hard to swallow, especially when there are so many cars out there that will perform circles around a 500hp Stang. It's understandable if you a bleed Ford blue, diehard Mustang guy, but if you are about getting the most performance for your money regardless of make/model, there are better options out there.

This thing will be around $50-55k which puts it perfectly in between a GT and GT500. It's a bargain at that price point. And that's fact. There's nothing else on the market that I would rather have with those specs, 4 seats, and that price point

Grandpa 11-17-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76116)
This thing will be around $50-55k which puts it perfectly in between a GT and GT500. It's a bargain at that price point. And that's fact. There's nothing else on the market that I would rather have with those specs, 4 seats, and that price point

It might be a year from release if there is any left. But not at first. I'm guessing it will be 55-60k plus a 10-20k ADM depending on the dealership. Add taxes and interest and that car is much more expensive than you think it is. Even IF you find a dealership doing no ADM, 60k plus taxes and interest is still very expensive for a 500hp car.

I mean, it's cool and all if you are a diehard Mustang or nothing guy. But if you are looking for the most performance for your dollar the GT350 isn't the most return for your money you can find.

But like everything, it's all hype. People want the latest and greatest thing. Before this it was the Hellcat, give it a few more months and the next thing will come along.

What matters is if you think the GT350 is worth it to you for that amount of money, go for it. To me, it's WAY too much money for a Mustang. If you get one, pencil me in for a race, can't wait to smoke one. :favorites37:

saunupe1911 11-17-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76117)
It might be a year from release if there is any left. But not at first. I'm guessing it will be 55-60k plus a 10-20k ADM depending on the dealership. Add taxes and interest and that car is much more expensive than you think it is. Even IF you find a dealership doing no ADM, 60k plus taxes and interest is still very expensive for a 500hp car.

I mean, it's cool and all if you are a diehard Mustang or nothing guy. But if you are looking for the most performance for your dollar the GT350 isn't the most return for your money you can find.

But like everything, it's all hype. People want the latest and greatest thing. Before this it was the Hellcat, give it a few more months and the next thing will come along.

What matters is if you think the GT350 is worth it to you for that amount of money, go for it. To me, it's WAY too much money for a Mustang. If you get one, pencil me in for a race, can't wait to smoke one. :favorites37:

That whole "I aint paying that much for a Mustang" line has gotten old. They aren't the same machines as back in the day. They have become world class vehicles in certain aspects. My purchase will be within late 2016 early 2017. Everything will be on the market for at least a yr and that markup should be gone for most performance cars.

Grandpa 11-17-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76118)
That whole "I aint paying that much for a Mustang" line has gotten old. They aren't the same machines as back in the day. They have become world class vehicles in certain aspects. My purchase will be within late 2016 early 2017. Everything will be on the market for at least a yr and that markup should be gone for most performance cars.

World class....lmfao.


Well, if that's what you want, more power to ya. Late 2016 - early 17 a lot can and will happen between now and then. At least that will give you time to see what issues these cars will have as all first year run cars do. Should be interesting to see what they can do once the hype dies down.

saunupe1911 11-17-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76119)
World class....lmfao.


Well, if that's what you want, more power to ya. Late 2016 - early 17 a lot can and will happen between now and then. At least that will give you time to see what issues these cars will have as all first year run cars do. Should be interesting to see what they can do once the hype dies down.

Yep the cards will be on the table from almost every manufacturer. But seriously forget the mustang brand and just take a look at the specs from the new interior, exterior, and potential performance at that $50 - $55k price point. There's nothing that can come close this. This thing can't come anywhere near $60k moderately equipped. Hopefully Ford realizes this .

Grandpa 11-17-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76120)
Yep the cards will be on the table from almost every manufacturer. But seriously forget the mustang brand and just take a look at the specs from the new interior, exterior, and potential performance at that $50 - $55k price point. There's nothing that can come close this. This thing can't come anywhere near $60k moderately equipped. Hopefully Ford realizes this .

I'll reserve that judgment for when they are in actual owners hands to see how they perform rather than the paid advertisements of the magazine article writers. Very rarely do the performance data of the journalists and the actual owners match.

New for new, your statement might have some truth to it. However, most performance enthusiasts look at what's available to them entirely rather than just what is new, the latest and greatest thing. At the same price point, you can get some other amazing cars that will perform or out perform the GT350 in every area. At $60k, also on the table are gently used ZR1's, Z06, GenIV Vipers, new CTS-V, Hellcat and a number of other cars.

However, if you are a diehard Mustang guy, go for it. I'm interested to see how this new car performs and how it sounds. I suspecting it will sound like a deeper toned BMW which will sound a TON better than the 11-14's that sound like a boat in the water burbling. lol

BERT 11-17-2014 05:02 PM

Is it cool? Yes. Would I pay that price for it? No. I also wouldn't pay the price for a z/28 either

saunupe1911 11-17-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76121)
I'll reserve that judgment for when they are in actual owners hands to see how they perform rather than the paid advertisements of the magazine article writers. Very rarely do the performance data of the journalists and the actual owners match.

New for new, your statement might have some truth to it. However, most performance enthusiasts look at what's available to them entirely rather than just what is new, the latest and greatest thing. At the same price point, you can get some other amazing cars that will perform or out perform the GT350 in every area. At $60k, also on the table are gently used ZR1's, Z06, GenIV Vipers, new CTS-V, Hellcat and a number of other cars.

However, if you are a diehard Mustang guy, go for it. I'm interested to see how this new car performs and how it sounds. I suspecting it will sound like a deeper toned BMW which will sound a TON better than the 11-14's that sound like a boat in the water burbling. lol

Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

Grandpa 11-17-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76123)
Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

That's an entire different argument if the rear seats actually count as whole seats in a Mustang. Haha. Part of the reason I got rid of my Stang, the rear seats just weren't practical enough for me. The rear of my V is much more user friendly. The V is my daily though. I have a new two seater toy coming up soon though. :favorites37:

saunupe1911 11-17-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76124)
That's an entire different argument if the rear seats actually count as whole seats in a Mustang. Haha. Part of the reason I got rid of my Stang, the rear seats just weren't practical enough for me. The rear of my V is much more user friendly. The V is my daily though. I have a new two seater toy coming up soon though. :favorites37:

Yeah I gotta have the seats for occasionally short rides for adults and small kids. It's also looking like the only V that will have 4 seats is the CTS. The CTS-V may be the last of a dying bread at that price point. Don't sell that car anytime soon. lol

Grandpa 11-17-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76125)
Yeah I gotta have the seats for occasionally short rides for adults and small kids. It's also looking like the only V that will have 4 seats is the CTS. The CTS-V may be the last of a dying bread at that price point. Don't sell that car anytime soon. lol

I have two little ones. Both in car seats. My youngest was in a rear facing car seat and the other in a forward facing seat. The rear facing one had to go in the right rear seat, and the front passenger seat had to go all the way forward in order to fit. My poor wife's knees were in the dash and the carseat was a serious PITA to get out of the back of the car. The car was just not enjoyable like that that. The car got rarely used, along with the questionable motor integrity with the goals I had in mind, I just couldn't see going anywhere else with it so I sold it.

The V is MUCH more useable. The 5.0 wasn't my daily, but the V is now. It's fun to drive, comfortable and everyone fits. I've already put WAY more miles on it than I ever did the 5.0. It's not a "car show" type car, but its fun to drive and I will keep it for awhile. I've got another round of mods for it planned then I'm done with it to concentrate on my new toy I will do car shows and the Runway Rivalry event with.

BERT 11-17-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76126)
I have two little ones. Both in car seats. My youngest was in a rear facing car seat and the other in a forward facing seat. The rear facing one had to go in the right rear seat, and the front passenger seat had to go all the way forward in order to fit. My poor wife's knees were in the dash and the carseat was a serious PITA to get out of the back of the car. The car was just not enjoyable like that that. The car got rarely used, along with the questionable motor integrity with the goals I had in mind, I just couldn't see going anywhere else with it so I sold it.

The V is MUCH more useable. The 5.0 wasn't my daily, but the V is now. It's fun to drive, comfortable and everyone fits. I've already put WAY more miles on it than I ever did the 5.0. It's not a "car show" type car, but its fun to drive and I will keep it for awhile. I've got another round of mods for it planned then I'm done with it to concentrate on my new toy I will do car shows and the Runway Rivalry event with.


Thought you said car shows were for queers?

Monolith 11-17-2014 07:27 PM

For that price? Uh...nope...if I want to spend $70k (after all markups) on a car lets see what I can get....

2013.....twin turbo....V6...all wheel drive....545 hp...463 ft lbs of torque....every option available in a vehicle.....

GTR anyone?

62nalide 11-17-2014 07:42 PM

Screw it I'll get one

Stangmaster281 11-17-2014 09:00 PM

I keep throwing money at my screen, but nothing is happening. I don't think I have enough money....

Grandpa 11-17-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BERT (Post 76127)
Thought you said car shows were for queers?

And thats why you sent me the schedule..

BERT 11-17-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76132)
And thats why you sent me the schedule..


That's it? You had nothing for the truth that I said so you spew lies?!?!? HA!!

5PointSlow 11-18-2014 12:18 AM

2016 GT350 revealed. And its everything we've wanted!
 
I really like it. Depending on the price and if I can get the deal my dealer said they would do I'll be getting one. My 15 moved into production this week. But my dealer is keeping it on order so I have options if the GT350 is stupid expensive.

STROKD 11-18-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76123)
Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

100 grand for a fucken Caddy. Hahaahabababbaababvabvvava, that worked so well when they made the XLR V. I think they sold like 15 of them before figuring they arent a Mercedes or BMW. American car makers are on the chronic.

Grandpa 11-18-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 76135)
100 grand for a fucken Caddy. Hahaahabababbaababvabvvava, that worked so well when they made the XLR V. I think they sold like 15 of them before figuring they arent a Mercedes or BMW. American car makers are on the chronic.

He's clearly misinformed. The V would never be in the same price range as the M5.

garner 11-18-2014 03:15 AM

If it does start between $50 and 60k the price is fair. I could care less about the performance of it, the looks and technology is all that really matters to me

46Tbird 11-18-2014 10:03 AM

50 grand?

That is loaded GT pricing. Don't believe me, head to a Ford dealership and look at a 50th Anniversary Mustang.

The GT350 has a unique engine and transmission, body panels / aero, wheels and tires, brakes, magnetic shocks, a Shelby pedigree - and hype. Lots and lots of hype.

That's a $70k car all day long. I crack up on the people that think they'll find these on lots for $40-50k. Get real...

Grandpa 11-18-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 76142)
50 grand?

That is loaded GT pricing. Don't believe me, head to a Ford dealership and look at a 50th Anniversary Mustang.

The GT350 has a unique engine and transmission, body panels / aero, wheels and tires, brakes, magnetic shocks, a Shelby pedigree - and hype. Lots and lots of hype.

That's a $70k car all day long. I crack up on the people that think they'll find these on lots for $40-50k. Get real...

I'm shocked, Danny and I agree on something!

New motor, drivetrain, new chassis, all the hype behind the S550 and GT350 and people think there will be no ADM on this car? Ha!

I think MSRP will be around $60-65k. Add ADM and interest, it's one hell of an expensive Mustang.

saunupe1911 11-18-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Grandpa (Post 76136)
He's clearly misinformed. The V would never be in the same price range as the M5.

I'm not misinformed. I'm stating a fact that was said by Caddy's new president to Motortrend. Caddy also said they will no longer undercut in pricing moving forward because they feel their products are better or just as good as the competition. Google it!

Kaane 11-18-2014 10:26 AM

It will be 5-10k more than a gt500, so I am guessing 70k base.

Grandpa 11-18-2014 10:36 AM

It sounds decent. It's still ugly though. lol



Grandpa 11-18-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76144)
I'm not misinformed. I'm stating a fact that was said by Caddy's new president to Motortrend. Caddy also said they will no longer undercut in pricing moving forward because they feel their products are better or just as good as the competition. Google it!

LOL, yeah because everything on the net is true. How about you provide a link where you found this information? I'd like to read it. I find it difficult to believe that the CTS-V is going from a 70k MSRP to a 100K MSRP. A 30k jump?

blownaltered 11-18-2014 01:55 PM

I actually like the looks of it, I like the changes they made to it. Would I spend 60k plus on it, hell no. There are a ton of cars out there I would by before that one, used of course.

STROKD 11-18-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 76144)
I'm not misinformed. I'm stating a fact that was said by Caddy's new president to Motortrend. Caddy also said they will no longer undercut in pricing moving forward because they feel their products are better or just as good as the competition. Google it!

Caddy president needs fired. No offense, its not as good as the Germans. The V is faster, sure, but fit and finish is not a BMW or MB, and esp not what comes from the UK.

Thats like saying the Corvette is just as good as a Porsche or Ferrari/Lambo. I dont understand thr American proud attitude. We build janky shit, it should cost less than Euro shit. Lol

BlackStang08 11-18-2014 10:12 PM

The new GT350 is badass! Looks amazing, and sounds amazing!

BlackStang08 11-18-2014 11:00 PM

Pics were too big.

Mustangdude72 11-20-2014 05:33 PM

in the interview with Jamal Hameedi, the lead engineer on the car he said that price and affordability were priorities, and that people would be surpised by the price when the numbers come to light, I dont see why its hard to believe that this will fall in between Boss 302 and gt500 pricing, I get where the $60-70K base msrp crowd is coming from but I think ford would be losing too many potential buyers at that price,

BlackStang08 11-20-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangdude72 (Post 76189)
in the interview with Jamal Hameedi, the lead engineer on the car he said that price and affordability were priorities, and that people would be surpised by the price when the numbers come to light, I dont see why its hard to believe that this will fall in between Boss 302 and gt500 pricing, I get where the $60-70K base msrp crowd is coming from but I think ford would be losing too many potential buyers at that price,

Do you have a link to the interview?

I don't think potential buyers is an issue at any price point if the plan is to limit the number of GT350's produced. There are people from everywhere wanting this car or wanting to see this car, drive it etc and people will open their wallets.

I read some feedback and some of the BMW guys that were waiting for the M4 want the GT350 now. Even the exotic car owners feedback was that they want to see this car. Ford is hitting more than just "us" guys, and are appealing to a whole different type of car person..

Mustangdude72 11-20-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackStang08 (Post 76190)
Do you have a link to the interview?

I don't think potential buyers is an issue at any price point if the plan is to limit the number of GT350's produced. There are people from everywhere wanting this car or wanting to see this car, drive it etc and people will open their wallets.

I read some feedback and some of the BMW guys that were waiting for the M4 want the GT350 now. Even the exotic car owners feedback was that they want to see this car. Ford is hitting more than just "us" guys, and are appealing to a whole different type of car person..

True but still ford reputation for coming in at lower than expected has me hopeful as i want to own one of these as soon as their available, heres the interview not a video just a Q&A http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...t350-6265.html


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