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12-18-2013, 09:21 AM
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this thread. wow.
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12-31-2013, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 5PointSlow
Can't go wrong with a blown 5.0. My TVS car was one of the ones you were looking at.
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5PointSlow,
I noticed in your sig, you have Shaun's tunes.
I have his tunes on my N/A now and I'll probably take his advice and get a Roush Phase 2, ID1000's, etc..
Just curious as to how you liked performance, etc. Any heat soak problems in Tx, OK heat?
Thanks
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2013 Boss 302 PW, Recaro, Torsen, AED tune, Airaid CAI, MGW, Hotchkis Springs/LCA, Whiteline Relo, CHE K Member w/Torque Limiters, Griggs Torque Arm Kit, T/A rear girdle, Kenny Brown Pan Hard Bar, Whiteline Tranny Bushing, JPC Linelock, JPC stainless clutch line, MT ET Street Radials (when needed), , 2013 GT500 Quad Axle Backs, Kooks LT 1 3/4, O/R X Pipe, Resonator Delete, JPC Line Lock,JPC Clutch Line.
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12-31-2013, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss949
5PointSlow,
I noticed in your sig, you have Shaun's tunes.
I have his tunes on my N/A now and I'll probably take his advice and get a Roush Phase 2, ID1000's, etc..
Just curious as to how you liked performance, etc. Any heat soak problems in Tx, OK heat?
Thanks
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His car is actually one of the cars I've been considering!
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2011 GT/CS
Mods: Roush AB's
Sitting on the shelf waiting for my lazy ass to install: OR/X, SCT ready for AED tune, JLT CAI, lowering springs, NX 100 shot
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01-14-2014, 08:49 AM
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Location: Mustang, Ok
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Originally Posted by Boss949
5PointSlow,
I noticed in your sig, you have Shaun's tunes.
I have his tunes on my N/A now and I'll probably take his advice and get a Roush Phase 2, ID1000's, etc..
Just curious as to how you liked performance, etc. Any heat soak problems in Tx, OK heat?
Thanks
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Sorry it took so long to reply. ive been underway and can only read these sites.
Anyway the car runs hard, 10.88@134 on Shaun's tune and E85. I have done multiple back to back runs at the track and saw no heat soak. the car ran extremely consistent.
ill be home in feb for two weeks so ill be out and about in the car!
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10.88@134 on street tires
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01-14-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 5PointSlow
Sorry it took so long to reply. ive been underway and can only read these sites.
Anyway the car runs hard, 10.88@134 on Shaun's tune and E85. I have done multiple back to back runs at the track and saw no heat soak. the car ran extremely consistent.
ill be home in feb for two weeks so ill be out and about in the car!
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Thanks for the feedback, very helpful.
You've got a strong GT. Congrats. Stay safe.
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2013 Boss 302 PW, Recaro, Torsen, AED tune, Airaid CAI, MGW, Hotchkis Springs/LCA, Whiteline Relo, CHE K Member w/Torque Limiters, Griggs Torque Arm Kit, T/A rear girdle, Kenny Brown Pan Hard Bar, Whiteline Tranny Bushing, JPC Linelock, JPC stainless clutch line, MT ET Street Radials (when needed), , 2013 GT500 Quad Axle Backs, Kooks LT 1 3/4, O/R X Pipe, Resonator Delete, JPC Line Lock,JPC Clutch Line.
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12-18-2013, 10:02 AM
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Location: Irving / Oklahoma City
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You guys with blowers, are you building the bottom end or just slapping on a blower, boosting the hell out of it and calling it a day?
-Alex
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Ford Racing . Pypes . BMR . CDC . American Muscle . DDM Tuning . BFG . J&M . Amsoil . MMD. JLT
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12-18-2013, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
You guys with blowers, are you building the bottom end or just slapping on a blower, boosting the hell out of it and calling it a day?
-Alex
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I don't think anybody on here is building a bottom end until it lets go. At least not that I can tell.
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12-18-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BERT
I don't think anybody on here is building a bottom end until it lets go. At least not that I can tell.
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Hmmmm... wouldn't it be cheaper to build it right the first time?
-Alex
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12-18-2013, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Hmmmm... wouldn't it be cheaper to build it right the first time?
-Alex
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Depends on how long the bottom end lasts lol
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12-18-2013, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP
I don't plan on upping the boost in my car anytime soon. I am keeping it fairly tame since this car sees more daily driving and road course duty than time at the strip. If I ever get the wild hair to go faster, I will probably build the bottom end/internals.
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I didn't read the whole thread, how soon does boost come on in the rpm range and how much boost is it tuned for currently?
Originally Posted by BERT
Depends on how long the bottom end lasts lol
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From what I understand the stock crank is already the same forged one in the Boss 302. Not sure about the connecting rods and pistons but I doubt Ford would use Forged pistons and rods on such a highly produced car.
-Alex
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12-18-2013, 11:54 AM
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I don't plan on upping the boost in my car anytime soon. I am keeping it fairly tame since this car sees more daily driving and road course duty than time at the strip. If I ever get the wild hair to go faster, I will probably build the bottom end/internals.
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Road Raced|Auto-X'd
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Texas Mile|1/2 Mile: 140.3|1 Mile: 166.4|She had more in her!
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12-18-2013, 01:47 PM
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Ive heard the piston ring landings are weak as well.
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12-18-2013, 07:45 PM
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I heard the driver is the weak link on the new 5.0s...especially in the group
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12-18-2013, 08:24 PM
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With a good tune most people are keeping the stock block together up to the 650HP mark. Past that it seems to be just a matter of time.
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12-18-2013, 11:49 PM
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It's all a shot in the dark. I just tore apart a 100% bone stock 5.0 engine no intake, exhaust etc and it has broken ring lands on 5 pistons!! Cylinders 2, and 5-8 all are broken.
To answer the question about boss vs gt, the cranks are exactly the same save for the balance job. The pistons are a mahle brand forging and the rods are an, IMO, weaker then stock gt, very thin rod. Also there seems to be assumptions that the boss rods and pistons are lighter, when in fact they are heavier then the gt stuff. I will tank pics and give weights tomorrow when I get back to the shop but IMO I would say the gt stuff may be stronger.
<620 rwhp you should be fine unless the ringlands fail. More then that you are just on borrowed time IMO. Another major weaklink is the block for you crazy hp guys. The sleeves are extremely thin, I would not recommend more then 850 rwhp on a stock block. More then that an you are just on borrowed time.
At this point I have built about 15 of these coyote engines with 4 in the shop now waiting to get done. I have pretty much seen every different failure and each time it's either number 8 failure a ringland fails or just too much damn power for a stock short block at 700+.
Take it for what it's worth, this is just my own hands on experience with these engines.
Now to answer the op, personally I am a little bias to procharger. I have installed every brand except vortech and hands down the procharger is the easiest and simplest kit to install. It requires very little to no modification to the vehicle with everything being reversible and not having to cut every piece of plastic under the good like some of the other brands. The kb kits are also very nice but come at a price.
I personally am considering a procharger for my ls swapped c10. Hehe
Last edited by Toby; 12-18-2013 at 11:55 PM.
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