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09-15-2014, 04:19 PM
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HPP's crappy tune car ran 8.20s
PMP's tune car ran 7.70s
We didn't have a good experience with Manny and HPP it was horrible. But yeah if others are happy with what they have thats great I guess you need to be in some type of club or be in the illuminati or something to be treated good. Oh well.
Last edited by 62nalide; 09-15-2014 at 04:22 PM.
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09-16-2014, 11:09 AM
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So Noah is doing tuning now? Or is he working with someone else?
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09-17-2014, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
So Noah is doing tuning now? Or is he working with someone else?
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No he's got Daniel from Triangle Speed Shop in Houston remote tuning.
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Vortech V3, forged internals, FRPP 3:73 gears, MAC LT's w/ Prochamber, FRPP K Springs, Hurst Billet shifter, FRPP Intake maniforld FRPP 62mm Throttle body, and lots of showy stuff that doesn't make it any faster.
Tuned by True Street Motorsports 523 rwhp and 444 ftlbs torque.
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09-17-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Taxman
No he's got Daniel from Triangle Speed Shop in Houston remote tuning.
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That's interesting to know.
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09-17-2014, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Taxman
No he's got Daniel from Triangle Speed Shop in Houston remote tuning.
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Remote tuning can be better than a bad local tuner lol
My car has been remote tuned since day 1 and people question it lol
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09-17-2014, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Taxman
No he's got Daniel from Triangle Speed Shop in Houston remote tuning.
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This is some what true. I do some of my own tuning and I also use Daniel from triangle speed. Daniel is an awesome guy to work with and knows his stuff.
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09-17-2014, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by slim87gt
This is some what true. I do some of my own tuning and I also use Daniel from triangle speed. Daniel is an awesome guy to work with and knows his stuff.
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This is cool to hear.
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09-15-2014, 09:41 PM
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The bottom line is, and always has been, for every person pissed off at one shop there is another who swears by it.
Yet another reason why my hot rods now are all over 40 years old. No one wrenches on these cars but me. If something goes wrong, I know exactly who to blame.
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09-15-2014, 10:08 PM
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El Presidente
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Location: Always ahead of Steve
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Age of car doesn't really have anything. You can still do your own shit on a new car
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09-15-2014, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight11
Age of car doesn't really have anything. You can still do your own shit on a new car
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This.
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Texas Mile - 152.8 half mile/180.0 mile
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09-15-2014, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner
This.
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You get a pass since you've obviously taken the time to learn the in's and out's of a modern cars spark and fuel tables.
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09-15-2014, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
I'll take that bet. We both start from scratch, you do your GT in its current form, I'll do my Scamp in its current form, and we race when we're done. You have 1 hour to do your best. Or worst. As the case may be.
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I'd have to say why not start with both of them in 100% stock form? Then how long does it take you to do the work just to catch up with the newer car which is still in its stock form?
Originally Posted by downtime!
You get a pass since you've obviously taken the time to learn the in's and out's of a modern cars spark and fuel tables.
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It's just air, fuel, and spark. Old or new. I've still got boxes of Holley jets and gaskets around here somewhere. I think the thing is the new stuff is viewed as some kind of black magic by many, and that just isn't the case. I see it as easier, I can sure make a calibration change and reflash quicker than I ever could tear the bowls off the carb and put them back, then get a timing light out and change the base timing, let alone changing the weights/springs for the mechanical advance. Plus I'm more likely to actually make the right change due to having data instead of guessing what the older car wants.
Now, would I rather put headers on your A body than put them on an S197? Hell yes. But by the same token I'd rather put them on an S197 than a 68-70 428CJ car. Would I rather put an oil pump on a big block Mopar than about anything else in the world, yes. We can play that kind of game all day.
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09-15-2014, 11:51 PM
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We could start both stock, no issues. I've been doing these things long enough to have it 98% correct as soon as I finish bolting the carb on. Won't need a jet change, just a little smoothing out.
I agree on the black magic part though. I tuned two of my old 3V cars, once with Sniper software and the last one with the SCT Racer pack or whatever it used to be called. It's still a matter or learning what the car likes, what this change affects over there, and how it all works together. The difference is, you will not do a great job your first time out. There is a reasonably steep learning curve. While in the other pit, there is a very reasonable chance that I can bolt that carb on right out of the box and the car will run pretty good. Two or three quick turns of a screwdriver, a twist of the distributor, and I'm good to go.
Originally Posted by kdanner
I'd have to say why not start with both of them in 100% stock form? Then how long does it take you to do the work just to catch up with the newer car which is still in its stock form?
It's just air, fuel, and spark. Old or new. I've still got boxes of Holley jets and gaskets around here somewhere. I think the thing is the new stuff is viewed as some kind of black magic by many, and that just isn't the case. I see it as easier, I can sure make a calibration change and reflash quicker than I ever could tear the bowls off the carb and put them back, then get a timing light out and change the base timing, let alone changing the weights/springs for the mechanical advance. Plus I'm more likely to actually make the right change due to having data instead of guessing what the older car wants.
Now, would I rather put headers on your A body than put them on an S197? Hell yes. But by the same token I'd rather put them on an S197 than a 68-70 428CJ car. Would I rather put an oil pump on a big block Mopar than about anything else in the world, yes. We can play that kind of game all day.
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09-15-2014, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight11
Age of car doesn't really have anything. You can still do your own shit on a new car
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I'll take that bet. We both start from scratch, you do your GT in its current form, I'll do my Scamp in its current form, and we race when we're done. You have 1 hour to do your best. Or worst. As the case may be.
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09-15-2014, 10:16 PM
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It took me 2 yrs to finally tune my car... But when I did I took it straight to Manny. Why? Because I watched him tune numerous cars before mine and they all ran excellent. I can't speak for engine builds but Manny is the man when it comes to pure tuning. Also the car is tuned exactly how I want it! To my exact specifications.
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