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09-20-2013, 09:39 PM
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10-17-2013, 07:59 PM
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Wow, this car ran a 7:37:470 at the Ring!
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10-18-2013, 01:54 AM
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Its def a fast car. But it better be for more than the price of a GT500 with no A/C or Radio...
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10-18-2013, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe
Its def a fast car. But it better be for more than the price of a GT500 with no A/C or Radio...
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Why do people get hung up on the A/C and radio thing for a track oriented car? The car clearly isn't meant to be a daily driver luxury car. Most hardcore racers remove those items anyway if the car has it.
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10-18-2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe
Its def a fast car. But it better be for more than the price of a GT500 with no A/C or Radio...
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Because Racecar
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10-18-2013, 06:19 PM
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This is going to upset all of the Ford elitests but, just sayin...
40. Camaro Z/28 7:37.47 162 '13 507 / 1702
53. Ford GT 7:40.60 161 '04 550 / 1538
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10-19-2013, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
This is going to upset all of the Ford elitests but, just sayin...
40. Camaro Z/28 7:37.47 162 '13 507 / 1702
53. Ford GT 7:40.60 161 '04 550 / 1538
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Tech in 2013> Tech in 2004
I understand why it doesnt have radio or A/C but people compare it to the Boss and its not even in the same catigory. A Boss, even the LS, is a track capable street car. the new Z/28 is a track car that you can get to pass inspection to drive on the street. still cant outrun that ugly, dont matter how fast it is
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10-19-2013, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe
still cant outrun that ugly, dont matter how fast it is
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True. I'm still not sold on the look. It kinda looks bloated to me. I was hoping the new changes would make it more trim, like what Ford did with the Mustang in 2010 as opposed to the blocky-looking style.
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10-19-2013, 08:48 AM
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I got a feeling that the new stangs are gonna be pretty quick around a track. Hell, if they can make a Live rear axle car handle what can they do with IRS and 600 less lbs?
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10-19-2013, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Why do people get hung up on the A/C and radio thing for a track oriented car? The car clearly isn't meant to be a daily driver luxury car. Most hardcore racers remove those items anyway if the car has it.
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Probably cause the cost. Yeah you gotta pay to play but I think no ac and radio standard would go over better if it was between the ss and zl1 price wise
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10-19-2013, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe
people compare it to the Boss and its not even in the same catigory.
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Not in the same category? I guess that depends on what personal category you come up with for each car. I see both as limited production, purpose built track pony cars, so they are absolutely in that same category.
Both have:
Limited production numbers
Track oriented engines
Naturally aspirated, high revving engines
Track tuned suspension
Better brakes that their more streetable counterparts
Weight savings
Upgraded aero
Cost more
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10-19-2013, 11:36 PM
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10-19-2013, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Not in the same category? I guess that depends on what personal category you come up with for each car. I see both as limited production, purpose built track pony cars, so they are absolutely in that same category.
Both have:
Limited production numbers
Track oriented engines
Naturally aspirated, high revving engines
Track tuned suspension
Better brakes that their more streetable counterparts
Weight savings
Upgraded aero
Cost more
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like I said the boss is a street car that is capible at the track, IE has a radio, a/c, sync, etc. The Z28 is a track car, no creature comforts, that passes inspection so you can also drive on the street. The Boss is very easily a daily driver car where as unless you live in a perfect climate and dont listen to radio, the z/28 would be a horrible daily driver. PLUS its about $25k more than the boss.....
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10-20-2013, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe
like I said the boss is a street car that is capible at the track, IE has a radio, a/c, sync, etc. The Z28 is a track car, no creature comforts, that passes inspection so you can also drive on the street. The Boss is very easily a daily driver car where as unless you live in a perfect climate and dont listen to radio, the z/28 would be a horrible daily driver. PLUS its about $25k more than the boss.....
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Price has nothing to do with how streetable (or trackable for that matter) a car may or may not be, so that factor is is more or less dependent on how much your income is and your budget.
Besides, it's not like you can't add AC and a radio when buying a Z/28, so really that point doesn't really seem feasible. If Chevy was saying "No we will not for any reason install AC or a radio", then I could see your argument legitimately. But since both cars can be bought with AC and a radio, kind of a wash.
Here's a USED 2012 Boss 302 LS for $47,000.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=9&Log=0
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10-20-2013, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Price has nothing to do with how streetable (or trackable for that matter) a car may or may not be, so that factor is is more or less dependent on how much your income is and your budget.
Besides, it's not like you can't add AC and a radio when buying a Z/28, so really that point doesn't really seem feasible. If Chevy was saying "No we will not for any reason install AC or a radio", then I could see your argument legitimately. But since both cars can be bought with AC and a radio, kind of a wash.
Here's a USED 2012 Boss 302 LS for $47,000.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=9&Log=0
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and Gary bought his used 2012 Boss LS for $40,000.... not sure what your point is? I'm still not sure what you are trying to argue here. We all agree that the z/28 is a fast car but once again it is 25k more expensive than a Boss was brand new so I would expect it to be faster.
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