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**saunupe1911** · 11-17-2014, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Grandpa

It might be a year from release if there is any left. But not at first. I'm guessing it will be 55-60k plus a 10-20k ADM depending on the dealership. Add taxes and interest and that car is much more expensive than you think it is. Even IF you find a dealership doing no ADM, 60k plus taxes and interest is still very expensive for a 500hp car.

I mean, it's cool and all if you are a diehard Mustang or nothing guy. But if you are looking for the most performance for your dollar the GT350 isn't the most return for your money you can find.

But like everything, it's all hype. People want the latest and greatest thing. Before this it was the Hellcat, give it a few more months and the next thing will come along.

What matters is if you think the GT350 is worth it to you for that amount of money, go for it. To me, it's WAY too much money for a Mustang. If you get one, pencil me in for a race, can't wait to smoke one.

That whole "I aint paying that much for a Mustang" line has gotten old. They aren't the same machines as back in the day. They have become world class vehicles in certain aspects. My purchase will be within late 2016 early 2017. Everything will be on the market for at least a yr and that markup should be gone for most performance cars.

**Grandpa** · 11-17-2014, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by saunupe1911

That whole "I aint paying that much for a Mustang" line has gotten old. They aren't the same machines as back in the day. They have become world class vehicles in certain aspects. My purchase will be within late 2016 early 2017. Everything will be on the market for at least a yr and that markup should be gone for most performance cars.

World class....lmfao.

Well, if that's what you want, more power to ya. Late 2016 - early 17 a lot can and will happen between now and then. At least that will give you time to see what issues these cars will have as all first year run cars do. Should be interesting to see what they can do once the hype dies down.

**saunupe1911** · 11-17-2014, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Grandpa

World class....lmfao.

Well, if that's what you want, more power to ya. Late 2016 - early 17 a lot can and will happen between now and then. At least that will give you time to see what issues these cars will have as all first year run cars do. Should be interesting to see what they can do once the hype dies down.

Yep the cards will be on the table from almost every manufacturer. But seriously forget the mustang brand and just take a look at the specs from the new interior, exterior, and potential performance at that $50 - $55k price point. There's nothing that can come close this. This thing can't come anywhere near $60k moderately equipped. Hopefully Ford realizes this .

**Grandpa** · 11-17-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by saunupe1911

Yep the cards will be on the table from almost every manufacturer. But seriously forget the mustang brand and just take a look at the specs from the new interior, exterior, and potential performance at that $50 - $55k price point. There's nothing that can come close this. This thing can't come anywhere near $60k moderately equipped. Hopefully Ford realizes this .

I'll reserve that judgment for when they are in actual owners hands to see how they perform rather than the paid advertisements of the magazine article writers. Very rarely do the performance data of the journalists and the actual owners match.

New for new, your statement might have some truth to it. However, most performance enthusiasts look at what's available to them entirely rather than just what is new, the latest and greatest thing. At the same price point, you can get some other amazing cars that will perform or out perform the GT350 in every area. At $60k, also on the table are gently used ZR1's, Z06, GenIV Vipers, new CTS-V, Hellcat and a number of other cars.

However, if you are a diehard Mustang guy, go for it. I'm interested to see how this new car performs and how it sounds. I suspecting it will sound like a deeper toned BMW which will sound a TON better than the 11-14's that sound like a boat in the water burbling. lol

**saunupe1911** · 11-17-2014, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Grandpa

I'll reserve that judgment for when they are in actual owners hands to see how they perform rather than the paid advertisements of the magazine article writers. Very rarely do the performance data of the journalists and the actual owners match.

New for new, your statement might have some truth to it. However, most performance enthusiasts look at what's available to them entirely rather than just what is new, the latest and greatest thing. At the same price point, you can get some other amazing cars that will perform or out perform the GT350 in every area. At $60k, also on the table are gently used ZR1's, Z06, GenIV Vipers, new CTS-V, Hellcat and a number of other cars.

However, if you are a diehard Mustang guy, go for it. I'm interested to see how this new car performs and how it sounds. I suspecting it will sound like a deeper toned BMW which will sound a TON better than the 11-14's that sound like a boat in the water burbling. lol

Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

**Grandpa** · 11-17-2014, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by saunupe1911

Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

That's an entire different argument if the rear seats actually count as whole seats in a Mustang. Haha. Part of the reason I got rid of my Stang, the rear seats just weren't practical enough for me. The rear of my V is much more user friendly. The V is my daily though. I have a new two seater toy coming up soon though.

**saunupe1911** · 11-17-2014, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Grandpa

That's an entire different argument if the rear seats actually count as whole seats in a Mustang. Haha. Part of the reason I got rid of my Stang, the rear seats just weren't practical enough for me. The rear of my V is much more user friendly. The V is my daily though. I have a new two seater toy coming up soon though.

Yeah I gotta have the seats for occasionally short rides for adults and small kids. It's also looking like the only V that will have 4 seats is the CTS. The CTS-V may be the last of a dying bread at that price point. Don't sell that car anytime soon. lol

**STROKD** · 11-18-2014, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by saunupe1911

Gotta have 4 seats. CTS-V is probably my favorite car right now but that new one won't be $60k. Caddy has confirmed that it will be priced right near an M5. The ATS-V doesn't appeal to me due to lack of the LT1. The Hellcats are on my short list as well. I gotta see how they hold up though.

100 grand for a fucken Caddy. Hahaahabababbaababvabvvava, that worked so well when they made the XLR V. I think they sold like 15 of them before figuring they arent a Mercedes or BMW. American car makers are on the chronic.

**Grandpa** · 11-18-2014, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by STROKD

100 grand for a fucken Caddy. Hahaahabababbaababvabvvava, that worked so well when they made the XLR V. I think they sold like 15 of them before figuring they arent a Mercedes or BMW. American car makers are on the chronic.

He's clearly misinformed. The V would never be in the same price range as the M5.

**El_Tortuga** · 11-21-2014, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by saunupe1911

That whole "I aint paying that much for a Mustang" line has gotten old. They aren't the same machines as back in the day. They have become world class vehicles in certain aspects. My purchase will be within late 2016 early 2017. Everything will be on the market for at least a yr and that markup should be gone for most performance cars.

Originally Posted by Grandpa

World class....lmfao.

Well, if that's what you want, more power to ya. Late 2016 - early 17 a lot can and will happen between now and then. At least that will give you time to see what issues these cars will have as all first year run cars do. Should be interesting to see what they can do once the hype dies down.

“That’s the magic of the Mustang. It’s a hell of a lot more car than what you paid for. That’s what makes me the most proud. If you have a good engineering team and you have a lot of money, anybody can put out a $200,000 car. But this is a car that will compete with cars two and three times its price range. And in many cases it will beat them.”
Dave Pericak, Chief Engineer Ford (2015 Mustang) Car and Driver February 2014

I know what mine is, and what mine isn't, and I'm pretty damn happy with what I got for my money.