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**Junkie** · 05-13-2014, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by rlhay2

A statement is made that diesel prices are likely to increase in the future but gas prices won't do the same? What logical basis is this assumption drawn from?

From what I have seen in this thread, others share factual data and you respond with hyperbole, conjecture and speculation.

I see trolling.

It seems his only reason to post here is to troll and post random nonsense BS. Anything that isn't "ford is the greatest ever" gets his attention lol.

**JDMLOL** · 05-12-2014, 09:29 PM

My dad is a REAL EB owner. We've been pleased with what kind of mpg it yields coming from four different 5.3/4l60e GM vehicles.

re-rx7 · 05-12-2014, 09:51 PM

No other truck can match that truck lb for lb. All that tq down low. LS motor forgetta bout it. This new truck from Ford is a game changer. Why do you think Chevy is doin the samething in 2018? I see the edit police are out.

**DirtyD** · 05-12-2014, 10:13 PM

Have no idea who edited it. I noticed my response is gone too. lol

**JDMLOL** · 05-12-2014, 10:28 PM

Somebody called the troll patrol.

**Grandpa** · 05-12-2014, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

Somebody called the troll patrol.

Yep. I dont do anything about it unless someone complains. Rx7 has been on a tear again the last couple of days. Needs to chill or its break time again. Haha.

re-rx7 · 05-12-2014, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Yep. I dont do anything about it unless someone complains. Rx7 has been on a tear again the last couple of days. Needs to chill or its break time again. Haha.

Big fucking babies. I swear you would think everyone on here is a badass but they get butthurt by any little thing. I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.

**DirtyD** · 05-12-2014, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Big fucking babies. I swear you would think everyone on here is a badass but they get butthurt by any little thing. I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.

I didn't do anything about it. I was just going to say you spelled "you" wrong. Ha

re-rx7 · 05-12-2014, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I didn't do anything about it. I was just going to say you spelled "you" wrong. Ha

He has this fettish with me or sumthin.

**rlhay2** · 05-13-2014, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

You guys are talking Diesal prices now not in the future. The past has shown us that they do go up considerably.

A statement is made that diesel prices are likely to increase in the future but gas prices won't do the same? What logical basis is this assumption drawn from?

Originally Posted by re-rx7

I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.

From what I have seen in this thread, others share factual data and you respond with hyperbole, conjecture and speculation.

I see trolling.

**Grandpa** · 05-13-2014, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by rlhay2

From what I have seen in this thread, others share factual data and you respond with hyperbole, conjecture and speculation.

I see trolling.

He's constantly side tracking threads with his nonsense. This is a great conversation aside from his nonsense. Allow me a moment to resolve this issue then you gentleman can proceed with your adult conversation.

**DirtyD** · 05-12-2014, 11:13 PM

I just told him to go troll Steve. Lol

**Crimson600+HP** · 05-13-2014, 12:43 AM

http://www.fuelly.com/car/dodge/ram%...14/diesel%20v6

This truck has only been out since February. But it has some fuel logs in fuelly. Across the board, numbers are in the 20s. Just an unbiased reporting website.

**JDMLOL** · 05-13-2014, 07:38 AM

I am not brand loyal as I have owned several GM trucks. If the truck got horrible mileage I would be the first one to tell you it wasn't worth it. I understand the data analysis part. However, I think fuelly hides some variables worth knowing. I do agree on longevity. My dad has a friend with an 11' EB with ~50k on the clock and it idles like shit and occasionally loses power. I witnessed the rough idle on a cold start and once it was warm, it continued. He's taken it in to the dealer and to no surprise they didn't find anything wrong. What's funny is the problem worsened when he had a ranch hand so he took it off. Almost makes me think the problem is with the intercooler. So there are some bugs that still need to be worked out for sure. Then again, I would question the longevity on anything Dodge. My dad's EB runs great though.

**Crimson600+HP** · 05-13-2014, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

However, I think fuelly hides some variables worth knowing.

Then again, I would question the longevity on anything Dodge.

My dad's EB runs great though.

Trust me brother, I know fuelly isn't the end all be all for fuel economy reporting, but I do think it is the best place to pull data from on the internet currently.

I have never considered a MOPAR product before. When the put the ZF 8 speed auto in there pentastars though, I thought finally Dodge is doing something right. ZF makes a great transmission. Then a VM diesel, which is heavily used in Europe was put into the 1500/Jeep Grand Cherokee which I thought was a good move. I have doubts on all the other stuff, but the major components I am not as worried as before. This is the same mentaility I took behind stepping into a Mustang. The pros outwieghted the cons and I took a chance (which after a blown cylinder I question my choice).

I trusts your Dad's EB runs great too and given the way he drives, get's the mileage worthy of Ford's claims. But to me the majority of data swings the other way in relations to fuel economy. Plus EPA claims on the EB are 22 HWY and the EcoDiesel claims 28 HWY in 2WD forms. I don't think these engines are competitors though, the EB has much more capability that the EcoDiesel. To me, the EcoDiesel is a competitor with the higher mileage gasoline small V8's and V6's.