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06-13-2013, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GTOphil
Hmm...interesting. I was planning $5500 for the pro charger p1sc kit.
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The Paxton 2200 is a FAR superior unit over the Procharger units, especially the P1SC which is absolute garbage in my opinion. The Paxton is capable of flowing well over enough to make a 1000hp+ to where the P1SC is running out of steam at 550. For some odd reason, Prochargers also have more parasitic loss than any other blower out there, meaning they take more horsepower to turn than any other blower. They also tend to have MAF reading issues on these cars.
Customer service and replacement parts are far more readily available at Paxton as well. Hands down Paxton over a Procharger.
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06-13-2013, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve
Jeff has this package from JPC. You can ask him his opinion of it.
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This could not be farther from the truth. Not a single part on jeffs build is from jpc. There is not even a single part the same as what jpc uses. jeffs car would make much more power, but it is setup with the intention of using nitrous. We could have made a few changes to make over 500 rwhp n/a but it would not have been safe to spray the nitrous. Also on another note, we dynoed a car recently that had wheels similar to jeffs wheels. The car made 408 rwhp, we put a set of stock wheels and tires we had at the shop on the rear, and the car made 428 rwhp with NOTHING else changed!!! Just goes to show how much "power" you lose with heavy wheels and tires, hince the variation in ''dyno'' numbers you will see.
Jeffs car is a beast for what it is, anyone that disagrees, has no idea what they are talking about. 479 hp to the tires with approx 20% power loss to the tires put him around 574 hp to the flywheel. That is 1.824 hp per ci. That is a huge amount of power I don't care what anyone says!!!
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06-13-2013, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby
with approx 20% power loss to the tires
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This is the number that actually scares me on my car. Add that 20% back in and I'm at 745-750 at the crank. I like to call that the danger zone with stock rods! LOL!
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06-13-2013, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
This is the number that actually scares me on my car. Add that 20% back in and I'm at 745-750 at the crank. I like to call that the danger zone with stock rods! LOL!
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You will be ok as long as you don't detonate. Should be on E-85 IMO or start spraying meth.
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06-13-2013, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
This is the number that actually scares me on my car. Add that 20% back in and I'm at 745-750 at the crank. I like to call that the danger zone with stock rods! LOL!
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As long as the tune is good, and you keep the rpms reasonable, you will be fine.
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06-13-2013, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby
As long as the tune is good, and you keep the rpms reasonable, you will be fine.
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The tune is good, and I don't rev it too high, except at the track (cross the line at 7200-7300 in 4th). Probably taking her apart anyway, so it's all good. Wanting a hot rod 3V again.
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06-13-2013, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby
This could not be farther from the truth. Not a single part on jeffs build is from jpc. There is not even a single part the same as what jpc uses. jeffs car would make much more power, but it is setup with the intention of using nitrous. We could have made a few changes to make over 500 rwhp n/a but it would not have been safe to spray the nitrous. Also on another note, we dynoed a car recently that had wheels similar to jeffs wheels. The car made 408 rwhp, we put a set of stock wheels and tires we had at the shop on the rear, and the car made 428 rwhp with NOTHING else changed!!! Just goes to show how much "power" you lose with heavy wheels and tires, hince the variation in ''dyno'' numbers you will see.
Jeffs car is a beast for what it is, anyone that disagrees, has no idea what they are talking about. 479 hp to the tires with approx 20% power loss to the tires put him around 574 hp to the flywheel. That is 1.824 hp per ci. That is a huge amount of power I don't care what anyone says!!!
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Great post about wheel weight and how they affect the car. That why I'm tryna stay stock 18's or at least stock weight
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06-13-2013, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Great post about wheel weight and how they affect the car. That why I'm tryna stay stock 18's or at least stock weight
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13" Daytons FTW.
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06-13-2013, 04:45 PM
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Re: 500 n/a rwhp
Originally Posted by Phuck Phace
13" Daytons FTW.
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And some switchez...
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06-13-2013, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Great post about wheel weight and how they affect the car. That why I'm tryna stay stock 18's or at least stock weight
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The stock wheels are not very light either
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06-13-2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Great post about wheel weight and how they affect the car. That why I'm tryna stay stock 18's or at least stock weight
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Wow I didn't realize wheel weight could make that big a difference! I'm shopping around for some 20s right now but can't find anything on weight. Is there a thread about popular wheels and their weight?
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06-13-2013, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GTRacerX
Wow I didn't realize wheel weight could make that big a difference! I'm shopping around for some 20s right now but can't find anything on weight. Is there a thread about popular wheels and their weight?
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One of the 5.0 mags had an article about it. They put Weld RTS' on the front and lost a tenth with no other changes
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06-13-2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke
One of the 5.0 mags had an article about it. They put Weld RTS' on the front and lost a tenth with no other changes
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Makes sense I just don't want to be running around town looking like I'm driving to the track lol. I'm looking at the style wheel every other 5.0 owner has on there car the Avant Garde M310s or something similar. Again just don't know how much the 20s weigh?
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06-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GTRacerX
Makes sense I just don't want to be running around town looking like I'm driving to the track lol.
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Ha, that's exactly what I want, but spending $1500+ on just the fronts is a problem for my greedy ass
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06-13-2013, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GTRacerX
Makes sense I just don't want to be running around town looking like I'm driving to the track lol. I'm looking at the style wheel every other 5.0 owner has on there car the Avant Garde M310s or something similar. Again just don't know how much the 20s weigh?
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I don't have an exact weight for you, but I do know my forged 20's are a lot lighter than my 19 inch stockers that came on my car. When my wheels were being put on at Discount Tire, I took a pic of the new wheels next to the old ones. I picked up the stocker to put in my truck and it was pretty heavy. So I went to lift my 20x11 with a 305 tire on it prepared for it to be heavy and almost fell over backwards cuz it flew up so easily being so much lighter. Jucostud was laughing at me cuz I was so surprised at the weight difference.
I know a lot of people think that a wheel like mine are just some sort of status symbol thing, but really a good, lightweight wheel is just as good as making more horsepower.
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